Work Live Care - The Triple Shift

About Work Live Care - The Triple Shift

🎧 Work, Live, Care: The Triple Shift — Conversations where work, life, and caregiving collide. Hosted by Lauren Yankoff and Denise M. Brown, this podcast explores what it really takes to lead, care, and live — all at once. Each episode features real stories from everyday professionals carrying the “triple shift” of work, life, and caregiving. Because this isn’t about doing it all — it’s about not losing yourself along the way.

Publisher

Lauren Yankoff, The Empowered Executive and Denise Brown, Caring Our Way

Category

society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

15 Nov 2025

Latest episode

15 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

12 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   15 Oct 2026

   How to Tell Your Employer You're a Caregiver: The Story That Changed a Workplace

   How do you tell your employer you're a caregiver, and what happens when you do? Jesus Loreto has cared for his wife, Maria, since 2007, when an attack from a rare autoimmune disease called NMOSD (neuromyelitis optica spectrum disorder) left her quadriplegic and without her eyesight overnight. It took three hospitals, aflight to Venezuela, and a test sent to the Mayo Clinic to get a diagnosis.Nearly 20 years later, Jesus has turned that experience into a full-time career as Patient Community Liaison Leader at Patient Health Alliance, advocating for patients and caregivers in English and Spanish. In this episode of The Triple Shift, Jesus joins hosts Lauren Yankoff and Denise Brown to talk about carrying more than three shifts around a disease that gives no warning. He explains why he tells every employer the truth about caregiving, starting in the interview, and shares the leadership meeting where he told his story and two leaders started crying, because they were caregivers too and had never said so at work. In this episode: - What NMOSD is and what caring for a spouse with an unpredictable rare disease requires - How to tell your employer you're a caregiver - The caregiver skills employers overlook: crisis management, communication, organization, patience, and focus - Why success can be "a good day for my wife," and ambition can be about service - Why being recognized, including in your own language, is where workplace support starts - What managers need to understand before the emergency room call comes Timestamps: 00:00Introduction 01:31A rare disease diagnosis that changed everything in 24 hours 03:14Three hospitals, Venezuela, and the Mayo Clinic 05:44Building caregiver support from a single phone line 07:46The quadruple shift: organizing around a 24/7 unpredictable disease 11:14How to tell a manager you're a caregiver 15:43Success redefined 19:16Why telling your story matters 22:53The leadership meeting that changed a workplace 25:13What workplaces should do differently 29:35Untapped expertise, and the leaders who were caregivers too 37:23Host debrief Connect with Jesus Loreto: PatientHealth Alliance: https://www.patienthealthalliance.org Email:jloreto@thepha.org Connect with the hosts: Lauren Yankoff, The Empowered Exec: https://theempoweredexec.com Email: lauren@theempowerdexec.com Denise Brown, Caring Our Way: https://caringourway.com Email: Denise@caringourway.com The Triple Shift explores how we work, how we live, and how we care, and why caregiving is a workforce issue, not a personal one.

2. 

   15 Sept 2026

   No One Trains You For This: What 30 Years of Leadership Never Taught Her About Caregiving

   What does it take to care for a parent from another continent — while running a global team, then walking away from thirty years of corporate leadership to build a life around freedom instead?Françoise Le Poulichet has spent her career navigating hidden burdens — first her own, in a narcissistic relationship that became the basis for her book, and then her mother's Alzheimer's diagnosis, managed from thousands of miles away in the United States while her family held the front line in France.In this episode of The Triple Shift, Françoise joins Lauren and Denise to unpack what she calls a “Russian doll” caregiving structure — her father caring for her mother, her sister caring for both, and Françoise caring for all three from a distance. She shares the 2024 crisis that pushed her out of a 30-year corporate career, why she now defines success as one word — freedom — and why no leadership training she ever received prepared her for a caregiving crisis on her own team.Time Stamps:[01:32] Introduction — Françoise Le Poulichet, author, publisher, and long-distance caregiver[03:20] What her triple shift looks like: a caregiving story with a global component[10:48] The Russian doll structure — how she, her sister, and her father divided the caregiving load[12:54] COVID, quarantine, and losing two years of in-person time with her mother[16:12] 2024: leaving a 30 year corporate career[18:38] Redefining success as freedom — and what that meant when the June emergency call came[21:17] What business continuity training never covered: a caregiving crisis on the team[30:09] Why seniority — not policy — often determines how much flexibility a caregiver gets[33:42] Where to Find Francoise[34:25] Hosts Reflect and Takeaways[42:16] Closing and Call to ActionAbout Françoise Le Poulichet Françoise Le Poulichet is an author, speaker, and publisher whose work explores how the hidden burdens we carry can become sources of strength, meaning, and transformation. Born in Brittany, France, and now based in the United States, she spent more than 30 years in international leadership, including 17 in the diabetes field, deepening her understanding of resilience and the unseen pressures many people quietly carry. Her own experience of a narcissistic relationship became the catalyst for this book: a compassionate guide for reclaiming clarity, strength, and self-worth after an emotionally destructive relationship. She is the founder of Black Swan Courtyard, a boutique publishing house, and creator of Stories Unleashed, a coaching program that helps people turn lived experience into books that inspire and heal. As a speaker, she invites audiences to rethink their burdens and find the gifts hidden within them. Find Françoise at:• Website: www.blackswancourtyard.com (http://www.blackswancourtyard.com/)• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francoise-le-poulichet-8669525 (http://www.linkedin.com/in/francoise-le-poulichet-8669525/)• Facebook: Francoise Le Poulichet (http://www.facebook.com/francoise.lepoulichet)• Narcissism — available on Amazon (https://a.co/d/0cVF3PIr)🔗 Learn more about working with Lauren Yankoff at: Lauren@theempoweredexec.com orhttps://www.theempoweredexec.com/ (www.theempoweredexec.com)🔗 Learn more about working with Denise Brown at: Denise@caringourway.com or https://www.careyearsacademy.com/ (www.careyearsacademy.com)Nothing prepares you for this — until you're the one living it.Share this episode with one person who needs it — a working caregiver, a people leader, or anyone quietly carrying a hidden burden of their own. Subscribe to The Triple Shift wherever you listen to podcasts.

3. 

   15 Aug 2026

   Retire My Leadership with Dr. Jacquelyn Trejo Torres

   She became her family's default caregiver at 18. Now she's navigating infertility, her parents' health, and a workplace culture that still asks grieving employees to prove their grief.On this episode of Work • Live • Care: The Triple Shift, Lauren Yankoff and Denise Brown talk with Dr. Jacquelyn Trejo Torres — a faculty member in the College of Business Administration at Cal Poly Pomona and a 15-year advocate for student success. Jackie was the youngest of three; after her older brother passed away at 24, she became the one who organizes her father's medical care, her mother's cardiology appointments, and the family's finances — all while managing her own infertility journey.This conversation covers what "voluntold" leadership actually costs, why letting some things fall through the cracks isn't failure, and what changes when workplaces stop asking caregivers to prove their pain.Connect with Dr. Jacquelyn Trejo Torres | LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-jacquelyn-trejo-torres-8b614459/) 🔗 Learn more about working with Lauren Yankoff at: Lauren@theempoweredexec.com orThe Empowered Executive (https://www.theempoweredexec.com/)🔗 Learn more about working with Denise Brown at: Denise@caringourway.com or Transform Your Caregiving Experience | The Caregiving Years Training Academy (https://www.careyearsacademy.com/)🎧 Subscribe for new episodes of Work • Live • Care: The Triple Shift every week.0:00 Meet Dr. Jacquelyn Trejo Torres 1:19 Her triple shift, explained 5:09 Her father's health, and becoming the family organizer 10:14 The systems that keep her afloat16:08 Redefining leadership and success18:20 Retire my leadership 27:08 Infertility inside the triple shift 33:56 What she wants workplaces to know39:02 The proof problem45:22 Host debrief 48:09 Leadership reflection #caregivingpodcast #workplaceculturepodcast #empoweredcare #caregivingatwork #lifestoriespodcast

4. 

   15 Jul 2026

   Care, Life, Work: Rewriting the Triple Shift as an Only-Child Caregiver

   An only child caring for both of her parents. Two layoffs in twoyears. And a total rewrite of what "work-life balance" even means. On this episode of the caregiving podcast Work • Live • Care: The Triple Shift, Misty McDaniel joins hosts Lauren Yankoff and Denise Brown to talk about caregiving fog, the leave gap most workplaces still get wrong, and what itactually means to feel seen. Misty is a customer experience executive who has spent the past year fully reordering her life around caregiving for both parents in her own home. This conversation covers the workplace culture gaps in caregiver leave and ERG programming, the mental load she calls "caregiving fog," andthe specific kind of acknowledgment that makes caregivers feel seen — not just called "a good daughter." Chapters 00:00  Intro 01:37  Meet Misty McDaniel 03:00 The triple shift, reordered: care, life, work 07:45  Selling the house, moving in with her parents 09:23  Naming caregiving fog 11:10  Two layoffs, one new definition of success 13:53  Gritty facts, gritty faith 19:32  Caregiving at work — what she shares, and with whom 24:38  The leave gap 29:36  Building trust through community: the caregiving Slack channel 35:22  Being seen, not just called "a good daughter" Links ●     Misty McDaniel on LinkedIn: Misty McDaniel | LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mistymcdaniel/) ●     Misty on Instagram @theonlychildcaregiver ●     Learn more about the CARE Method and Lead • Live • Care: www.theempoweredexec.com (http://www.theempoweredexec.com) or www.leadlivecare.com (http://www.leadlivecare.com) ●     Learn more about the 6 Stages of Caregiving at www.careyearsacademy.com (http://www.careyearsacademy.com) or www.caringourway.com (http://www.caringourway.com) #CaregiverPodcast #Caregiving #WorkplaceCulture #EmpoweredCare#TripleShift #LifeStories #CaregivingAtWork

5. 

   15 Jun 2026

   Long-Tenured Employees, Results-Only Work, and "Everybody Has a Story" — Inside a CEO's Caregiver-Friendly Culture with Bruce McIntryre

   Episode 8: Long-Tenured Employees, Results-Only Work, and "Everybody Has a Story" — Inside a CEO's Caregiver-Friendly Culture Bruce McIntyre has been a caregiver for over 20 years — first for his wife, who lives with a rare autoimmune disease, and now as a distance caregiver for two sets of aging parents. He's also been CEO of Oklahoma Parkinson Alliance for 11+ years, leading a team with remarkable tenure (7, 9, 11+ years) in a field known for burnout. In this episode, Bruce joins Lauren Yankoff and Denise Brown to share how he built a results-only culture, why "everybody has a story" is his core leadership philosophy, and a story about a broken FMLA process that will stay with you. WHAT YOU'LL HEAR — Bruce's "four shifts": spousal caregiving, distance caregiving for two generations of parents, his work as CEO/author/advocate, and intentional self-care — The "55-day trade": how infusion therapy buys his wife 55 days of normal life for every 5 days of recovery — Why distance caregiving doesn't mean being the absent one — How results-only leadership creates flexibility without sacrificing accountability — Why employee tenure may be the most honest measure of a caregiver-friendly culture — The FMLA story that shows how broken systems compound a crisis — What Gen Z is teaching workplaces about boundaries and hidden workload ABOUT BRUCE MCINTYRE CEO of Oklahoma Parkinson Alliance (3 offices, 10 staff, ~150 volunteers, ~90 programs statewide). Caregiver for his wife since 2004 (dermatomyositis). Author of 5 books, incl. Receiving Peace, Thrive Anyway, Graceful Transitions, Resilient Life, and Parkinson Positive. Wrote "A Prayer for Caregivers" (2007). brucemcintyre.com (www.brucemcintyre.com) FOR HR LEADERS & PEOPLE MANAGERS — Measure results, not hours — Build psychological safety, then prove it over time — Fix the systems (FMLA, vendors, approvals) — not just the sentiment — Watch the generational shift in workplace expectations — Read employee tenure as a signal of whether flexibility is real HOSTS The Empowered Exec — Lauren Yankoff — theempoweredexec.com (www.theempoweredexec.com) Caring Our Way — Denise Brown — caringourway.com (www.caringourway.com) Share this episode with someone who's carrying a lot and could use some clarity. Subscribe to The Triple Shift wherever you listen to podcasts.

6. 

   15 May 2026

   She Stepped Away From Her Career to Become the CEO of Her Mother's Care - With Annatova Neches

   THE TRIPLE SHIFT | Episode 7 What does it look like to leave a corporate career at Adidas and become the full-time CEO of your mother's care — managing a family trust, a caregiver team, rental properties, a doctoral dissertation in Jungian psychology, and a music career — while insisting on keeping your identity intact? For Annatova Neches, it looks like a system. In this episode of The Triple Shift, Annatova walks through what her triple shift — work, life, and care — looks like in practice: how she structured her role as a paid care manager employed by her mother's trust, why physical distance made her a better caregiver, what Jungian psychology taught her about showing up with dignity, and why she now defines success as a quiet afternoon with no emergency texts. ─────────────────────────TIMESTAMPS─────────────────────────00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro00:55 Her Triple Shift Setup03:24 Systems and Boundaries08:03 Keeping Life and Identity09:15 Jungian Lens on Care11:28 Trusting Intuition15:37 Getting Paid via Trust21:15 Leadership and Success Redefined29:46 Future Leadership Vision33:52 What Workplaces Should Do41:01 Album and Creative Therapy43:40 Connect and Closing44:22 Hosts Reflect and Wrap ─────────────────────────WHAT YOU'LL LEARN───────────────────────── How a family trust can legally employ a family caregiver — and what that model looks like What it means to be the CEO of a caregiving operation Why distance from a care recipient can be an act of love, not abandonment How Jungian psychology deepened her empathy for her mother and herself How she released an album and finished a dissertation while caregiving full time What workplaces get wrong — and why acknowledgment is the baseline, not a perk Why success now looks like a quiet afternoon with no emergency texts ─────────────────────────ABOUT ANNATOVA NECHES─────────────────────────Artist, musician & PhD candidate in Jungian psychology. Former creative services project manager at Adidas. Full-time care manager for her mother Terry (Alzheimer's) since January 2022, employed by the family trust as co-trustee and fiduciary. Website: annatova-neches.squarespace.comInstagram: @annatovanechesFacebook: facebook.com/annatovaLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/annatova-nechesPantheon (latest album): open.spotify.com/album/4rrqz8AdQx1jmL3rbGDQqI ─────────────────────────FOR HR LEADERS───────────────────────── Acknowledge it first. Caregiving is still invisible in most workplaces — and that silence is a retention risk. Caregiving seasons are long. Employees need sustained support, not just a week of compassionate leave. Read career gaps as leadership development — not absence. Project management, crisis response, team coordination: these skills are directly transferable. Don't conflate care manager with home health aide. The scope is vastly underestimated. Performance continuity is the business case. An unacknowledged caregiving load puts performance, retention, and engagement at risk. ─────────────────────────YOUR HOSTS─────────────────────────Lauren Yankoff — Founder, The Empowered Exec. Creator of Lead.Live.Care. for working caregivers. Lauren@theempoweredexec.comtheempoweredexec.com Denise Brown — Founder, Caring Our Way. Nationally recognized caregiving expert and author. Denise@caringourway.comcaringourway.com

7. 

   15 Apr 2026

   The Club Sandwich Generation Is at Work Right Now — Is Your Culture Ready? Featuring Nicole Townsend

   Work Live Care EP. 6What does it actually look like to run a business, care for a 75-year-old mother living with Parkinson's, check in on a 95-year-old grandmother, raise two young adult children — and do all of it while navigating your own breast cancer diagnosis and recovery?Nicole Townsend calls it the club sandwich generation. And she doesn't say it with a shrug — she says it with clarity, strategy, and an unflinching insistence that this is a workforce issue, not a personal one.In this episode of The Triple Shift, Nicole joins Lauren and Denise to share what her triple shift — how she works, how she lives, and how she cares — looks like day to day. She unpacks a December crisis that reshaped her understanding of what sustainability actually requires, and makes the case that workplaces measuring success by quantity are actively failing their best people.What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhat the 'club sandwich generation' is — and why it's a more accurate frame than sandwich generation for women 45–55How Nicole navigated a December crisis when her mother fell and broke her hip — and what the decision to move her to assisted living really requiredWhy unsolicited judgment from outsiders is one of the most underacknowledged burdens of caregivingHow a breast cancer diagnosis in 2024 fundamentally reframed Nicole's definition of leadership and successWhat true flexibility at work actually means — and why saying the words without changing the deadlines doesn't countWhy quantity-as-success-metric is one of the most damaging defaults in workplace cultureHow Nicole redesigned her business model around one clear lane — and what that teaches us about sustainable caregiving and careerWhat it sounds like when a leader truly sees the whole person — and why that builds the kind of trust that retains talentHow caregiving needs to be elevated as a workforce and economic development issue — not a personal oneEpisode Timestamps00:00 Welcome to Triple Shift01:35 Meet Nicole Townsend03:02 Her Daily Triple Shift06:44 Mom’s Fall and Crisis10:38 Assisted Living Decision15:14 Redefining Leadership and Success17:46 Shifting Her Business Model21:15 What Workplaces Must Change27:33 Empathy in Action30:02 Finding Personal Sustainability33:14 Hosts Reflect and Wrap Up41:10 Final Outro and Next StepsAbout Nicole TownsendFounder of Experience Counts, a consultancy helping organizations build intentional, people-centered culturesAuthor of Just Be Real — a field guide for managers to make work count for employees and companiesCultural advisor, community leader, and neurodiversity advocate, inspired by family members on the autism spectrum and living with Parkinson'sPrimary caregiver for her mother (75, Parkinson's) and involved in the care of her grandmother (95)Breast cancer survivor — diagnosed 2024, double mastectomy December 2024, radiation 2025, final surgery October 2025President-elect (becoming President July 2026) of the National Association for Women Business Owners (NAWBO), SacramentoResources & Guest Links:GUESTnicole@experiencecounts.usExperience Counts - www.experiencecounts.us (https://experiencecounts.us/)Just Be Real by Nicole Townsend — sold at Amazon (https://a.co/d/0bjxn8GA)National Association for Women Business Owners (NAWBO) — nawbo.org (https://nawbo.org/)Connect with Us:HOSTSThe Empowered Exec — Lauren Yankoffwww.theempoweredexec.com (https://www.theempoweredexec.com/) lauren@thempoweredexec.comCaring Our Way — Denise Brownwww.caringourway.com (https://join.caringourway.com/) denise@caringourway.comThe club sandwich generation is at work right now.Share this episode with one person who needs to hear it — a working caregiver, a people leader, or an entrepreneur trying to make it all sustainable.Subscribe to The Triple Shift wherever you listen to podcasts.

8. 

   15 Mar 2026

   You Don't Get It Until You Live It: Dementia Caregiving, Boundaries, and Workplace Support with Lori Zoss

   Work Live Care EP. 5 You Don't Get It Until You Live It: Dementia Caregiving, Boundaries, and Workplace Support with Lori Zoss Episode Overview What happens when the hardest part of caregiving isn't the diagnosis — it's everything else around it? In this episode, Denise and Lauren sit down with Lori Zoss, entrepreneur and founder of Growth Owl, for an honest, grounded conversation about caring for her mother who has mixed dementia — while running her own business, setting harder boundaries than she ever has, and finding her way back to joy. Lori shares what it felt like to watch her mother's diagnosis unfold during a routine knee surgery, why she believes corporate America is failing caregiving employees, and how this season of life has fundamentally changed the way she leads, sells, and protects her energy. This one is for every professional who has ever thought: I don't know how people do this when they work for someone else. In This Episode 00:00 Meet Lori Growth Owl 00:15 AI Networking Connection 01:47 Defining Triple Shift 02:12 Dementia Diagnosis Journey 04:01 Daily Caregiving Reality 05:48 Work Versus Caregiving 13:55 Systems And Fatigues 15:31 Setting Firm Boundaries 19:11 Finding Joy On Purpose 22:07 Redefining Work Success 25:56 Creating Margin to Avoid Burnout 26:27 Choosing Aligned Clients 27:48 Triple Shift Hits Workplaces 30:44 Building Corporate Caregiving Programs 33:07 Embedded Caregiving Consultant Model 34:11 Culture Matters in Support 36:37 Talking Dementia and Planning Ahead 40:22 Family Emergency Planning at Work 43:18 Books and Where to Find Them 46:07 Workplace Support Beyond Joy and Death 50:31 Grief, Bereavement, and Retention 53:22 Episode Wrap and Takeaways Key Concepts From This Episode Grace Fatigue — The quiet depletion that comes from being repeatedly gracious to well-meaning people whose advice makes caregiving harder, not easier. System Fatigue — The exhaustion of simultaneously managing multiple caregiving systems, each with its own paperwork, processes, and demands. The 19 Caregiving Systems — Denise's proprietary framework identifying the distinct operational systems a caregiver manages — often all at once. Family Emergency Planning — A proactive workplace program that normalizes caregiving conversations by anchoring them in something everyone understands: planning ahead for the unexpected. The CARE Method™ — Lauren's four-stage operating framework (Clarify, Align, Reallocate, Elevate) for leaders navigating the collision of career and caregiving. Quotes From This Episode "It's not the dementia that's consuming. It's managing everything else around it." — Lori Zoss "It is not my responsibility to provide access to my mother to make somebody else feel better." — Lori Zoss "This is a season of life. Not the whole life." — Lori Zoss "Caregiving is one of those things we all seem to be a part of at some point — yet the workplace has almost no formal structure for it." — Lori Zoss Resources & Guest Links 🦉 Growth Owl — Lori's corporate sponsorship and revenue strategy advisory: thegrowthlowl.com (http://thegrowthowl.com) 📚 Under Caution — Lori's romance suspense novel featuring a female race car driver: available on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FCD6GPCQ) and BarnesandNoble.com 📚 The Boardroom Playbook — Lori's guide to corporate sponsorship for nonprofits and purpose-driven organizations: available on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Boardroom-Playbook-Ordinary-Corporate-Organization/dp/B0BHS9F1Q6/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0) ✍️ Lori's author site: lorizossbooks.com (http://lorizossbooks.com) Lori Zoss📧 Lori@thegrowthowl.com Connect With Us 💼 Lauren Yanoff on LinkedIn 📧 lauren@theempoweredexec.com (mailto:lauren@theempoweredexec.com)                                            🌐theempoweredexec.com 💼 Denise Brown on LinkedIn 📧 denise@caringourway.com If this episode resonated, share it with someone who is carrying a lot right now and could use the language to talk about it. Subscribe, leave a review, and tell us what you want to hear next — it genuinely shapes this show. The Triple Shift: For people leading at work, caring at home, and trying to keep a life through all of it.

9. 

   15 Feb 2026

   Designing a Life - Calvina Nyugen on Duty, Joy and Identity

   What happens when you’re the only child, a business owner, a mother — and both of your parents have Parkinson’s? In this episode of Work • Live • Care: The Triple Shift, Denise Brown and Lauren Yankoff talk with brand strategist Calvina Nyugen about leading through one of life’s most complex seasons. When COVID began, Calvina’s caregiving intensified overnight. She now manages daily meals, transportation, translation, medical paperwork, and the invisible mental load of being a “dutiful daughter” shaped by cultural expectation and love. This conversation goes beyond resilience. We talk about: • Protecting capacity without abandoning ambition • Designing a 4-day workweek that actually works • Using systems (and AI) to prevent burnout • The guilt and gratitude that coexist in caregiving • Why caregiving isn’t a personal problem — it’s a policy gap Caregiving is not a detour from leadership. It is a leadership season. If you’re navigating the intersection of work, life, and care — or supporting someone who is — this episode will help you see that aligned design, not sacrifice, is the way forward. Follow The Triple Shift and share with someone carrying their own invisible load. In This Episode: 00:00 – Welcome to The Triple Shift (Work • Live • Care) 01:40 – Meet Calvina: Founder, Mother, Only Child, Caregiver 04:15 – When the Pandemic Changed Everything 05:54 – Translation, Fear & the Immigrant Daughter Experience 08:31 – Culture, Duty & the Weight of Gratitude 11:59 – Spark Joy While Tapped Out? What That Really Means 16:59 – Boundaries as Design: Protecting Weekends 21:45 – Making a 4-Day Workweek Work 24:16 – Using AI as Strategic Support (Calendar & Capacity Audits) 25:19 – The Math of Capacity: Scaling Without Burning Out 27:00 – Reframing the “Brand” of Caregiving 33:58 – The Policy Gap: What Caregivers Actually Need 36:42 – Real Resources, Real Waitlists 41:02 – Why We Seek Help Only When We’re Already in Pain 44:33 – Designing a Life Without Disappearing 45:52 – Closing Reflections & What’s Next About our guest: Calvina Nyugen is a brand strategist and designer with 20 years of design experience who helps creators, coaches, and consultants bridge the gap between their expertise and online presence. She delivers brand strategy, brand design, and websites that help entrepreneurs look as professional as their expertise and attract ideal clients online. She can be reached at: Calvina@yourbrandspark www.yourbrandspark.com (www.yourbrandspark.com) 🌟 Meet the Hosts Lauren Yankoff Executive Coach| Speaker & Podcast Host | Leadership & Caregiving Strategist Lauren helps leaders at the intersection of work, life, and caregiving find peace of mind and clarity in seasons of change. Through her CARE Method™ and deep experience as both a corporate executive and family caregiver, she helps people and organizations redefine success through alignment, not over-functioning. She brings the same grounded, real-world perspective to the mic that she brings to her coaching — honest, practical, and rooted in care. 🔗 www.theempoweredexec.com (www.theempoweredexec.com) Denise M. Brown Founder & CEO, The Caregiving Years Training Academy For more than 30 years, Denise has helped individuals and workplaces navigate caregiving and difficult life experiences with compassion, structure, and hope. A true pioneer in the caregiving field, she launched one of the first online caregiving communities in 1996 and continues that mission through CaringOurWay.com. Her work has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, USA Today, and more. Denise’s mission is to help people find possibilities and peace in the midst of care. 🔗 www.careyearsacademy.com 🔗 join.caringourway.com (http://join.caringourway.com)

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    15 Jan 2026

    The Power of Acceptance: Long-distance Caregiving as an Only Child

    Welcome to the third episode of Work Live Care, the Triple Shift, with Denise Brown and Lauren Yankoff, where we delve into the unique challenges faced by working caregivers. In this episode, they host Michelle Uebel, an executive and caregiver managing responsibilities across two states. Michelle shares her journey of balancing a demanding career in the pharmaceutical industry with caring for her mother. She offers valuable insights into setting boundaries, seeking support, and the importance of self-care. Tune in for a deep dive into the realities of the triple shift and how workplaces can better support those juggling work, life, and caregiving. 00:00 Introduction to the Triple Shift 01:37 Meet Our Guest: Michelle Uebel 02:18 Michelle's Triple Shift Experience 02:56 Balancing Work, Life, and Caregiving 05:14 Seeking Support and Setting Boundaries 11:32 Managing Care Across Distances 16:54 Shifts in Perspective on Work and Leadership 21:15 Balancing Risk and Independence in Caregiving 22:19 Managing Work and Caregiving Responsibilities 23:00 Setting Boundaries and Practicing Self-Care 25:36 Creating a Supportive Workplace Culture 31:56 Trust and Acceptance in the Triple Shift 33:59 Final Thoughts and Encouragement About our guest: Michelle Uebel is a Global Key Account manager (sales) with 25 years of experience, domestic and international, in the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industry. Michelle is from Chicago and now splits her time between Chicago and Scottsdale. She loves her dogs, the Chicago Cubs, hiking, traveling, reading and recently is working to improve her Mahjong skills. Michelle may be reached at: michelleuebel@yahoo.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelleuebel/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelleuebel/) 🌟 Meet the Hosts Lauren Yankoff Certified Caregiving Consultant| Speaker | Former Fortune 500 Leader Lauren helps leaders at the intersection of work, life, and caregiving find peace of mind and clarity in seasons of change. Through her CARE Method™ and deep experience as both a corporate executive and caregiver, she helps people and organizations redefine success through alignment, not exhaustion. She brings the same grounded, real-world perspective to the mic that she brings to her coaching — honest, practical, and rooted in care. 🔗 www.theempoweredexec.com Denise M. Brown Founder & CEO, The Caregiving Years Training Academy For more than 30 years, Denise has helped individuals and workplaces navigate caregiving and difficult life experiences with compassion, structure, and hope. A true pioneer in the caregiving field, she launched one of the first online caregiving communities in 1996 and continues that mission through CaringOurWay.com. Her work has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, USA Today, and more. Denise’s mission is to help people find possibilities and peace in the midst of care. 🔗 www.careyearsacademy.com 🔗 join.caringourway.com

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    15 Dec 2025

    From Leadership to Self-Care: Redefining this Season of Life with Christy Moore

    From Leadership to Self Care - Redefining this Season of LifeNavigating the Triple Shift: Caregiving, Work, and Self-Care with Christie Moore In this episode of 'The Triple Shift,' hosts Denise Brown and Lauren Yanoff sit down with Christie Moore, a nurse and health educator balancing multiple roles - caring for her husband and parents, working, and pursuing self-care and career advancement. Christie shares her insights on managing the overwhelming demands of caregiving while maintaining personal and professional well-being. The conversation covers the importance of self-care, the challenges of accessing benefits for family caregivers, and the need for workplace policies that truly support employees in their caregiving roles. Tune in to hear Christie's inspiring story and practical strategies for navigating the triple shift.00:00 Introduction to the Triple Shift01:42 Meet Our Guest: Christie Moore02:43 Christie's Caregiving Journey04:20 Balancing Self-Care and Support08:05 Navigating Work and Personal Life16:24 Redefining Success and Leadership23:27 Making the Decision to Step Back24:09 Communicating with Your Manager25:04 Balancing Work and Personal Life28:07 Coping Mechanisms and Self-Care31:16 Challenges of Caregiving33:09 Workplace Support for Caregivers43:57 Final Thoughts and ResourcesLink to the 6 stages of Caregiving: https://www.careyearsacademy.com/the-caregiving-years/ (https://www.careyearsacademy.com/the-caregiving-years/) About our guest: Christy Moore, RN, is a healthcare professional with over 35 years of experience in oncology, cardiology, and home health, along with more than two decades in the pharmaceutical industry. She holds an MA in Spiritual Psychology and is both a Certified Professional Coach and a Certified Caregiver Consultant in training. Drawing from her own five-year journey as a caregiver for her husband and parents, Christy blends clinical expertise with lived experience to help caregivers and families navigate healthcare with confidence, compassion, and resilience.🌟 Meet the HostsLauren YankoffCertified Caregiving Consultant| Speaker | Former Fortune 500 LeaderLauren helps leaders at the intersection of work, life, and caregiving find peace of mind and clarity in seasons of change. Through her CARE Method™ and deep experience as both a corporate executive and caregiver, she helps people and organizations redefine success through alignment, not exhaustion.She brings the same grounded, real-world perspective to the mic that she brings to her coaching — honest, practical, and rooted in care.🔗 www.theempoweredexec.com (https://www.theempoweredexec.com/)Denise M. BrownFounder & CEO, The Caregiving Years Training AcademyFor more than 30 years, Denise has helped individuals and workplaces navigate caregiving and difficult life experiences with compassion, structure, and hope.A true pioneer in the caregiving field, she launched one of the first online caregiving communities in 1996 and continues that mission through CaringOurWay.com.Her work has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, USA Today, and more.Denise’s mission is to help people find possibilities and peace in the midst of care.🔗 www.careyearsacademy.com (https://www.careyearsacademy.com/)

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    15 Nov 2025

    On a Journey of Finding Alignment - with Guest Alexis Seth

    Navigating Work, Life, and Care: A Journey to Alignment In this inaugural episode of 'The Triple Shift,' hosts Denise Brown and Lauren Yanoff explore the real-time challenges faced by working caregivers. Their first guest, Alexis Seth, shares her deeply personal story of balancing professionalresponsibilities while caring for her parents. Alexis discusses the journey of recognizing and resolving personal and professional misalignment, the crucialsupport she received from communities like the Binti Circle and the Continentals, and the importance of mental health care. Through vulnerability and humor, Alexis and the hosts delve into the transformative power of grace, compassion, and boundaries. The episode also touches on workplace flexibility,the transferable skills gained from caregiving, and strategies for creating supportive work environments. Join them for an insightful conversation filled with hope, wisdom, and practical lessons for balancing life's triple shift. 00:00Introduction to the Triple Shift 01:53Meet Our First Guest: Alexis Seth 02:10Alexis' Caregiving Journey and Personal Transition 04:53The Struggle for Alignment and Peace 06:10Support Systems and Community 12:28The Reality of the Third Shift 19:12Mental Health and Professional Support 24:15Understanding and Respecting Boundaries 24:34The Importance of Mental Health 26:09Navigating Relationships with Parents 28:13The Challenges of Caregiving 28:52Redefining Work and Success 34:16Workplace Flexibility and Skills 40:44Finding Alignment and Self-Compassion 43:24 Connecting and SupportingCaregivers About Alexis Seth Alexis Seth is a strategic and empathetic leader with more than 20 years ofexperience guiding digital transformation, process improvement, andorganizational modernization across federal and consulting environments. As aProgram Manager with Leidos, she helps bridge organizational strategy andtechnology innovation to deliver data-informed, human-centered solutions thatadvance equity and modernization goals. Beyond her professional work, Alexis is deeplycommitted to community and connection. She founded Giggles & Sticks Girls’ Lacrosse to foster leadership andbelonging among girls using lacrosse as the activating mechanism. She alsoleads youth wellness initiatives through the Continental Societies, Inc.promoting recreation and holistic development among children and teens. In recent years, Alexis has been on a caregivingjourney, supporting both of her parents through significant life transitions.This experience has profoundly shaped her perspective on balance, compassion,and purpose—teaching her the value of presence as much as productivity. She isa member of The Binti Circle, anintergenerational network of Black daughters who support one another throughthe shared realities and responsibilities of caregiving. Through thiscommunity, Alexis continues to explore how care, leadership, and legacy intersect in the lives of women who nurture both families and futures. About the Hosts Lauren Yankoff is an executive coach, speaker, and former Fortune 100 leader who helps professionals find peace of mind and clarity at the intersection of work, life, and caregiving. Through her CARE Method™, she guides leaders toward alignment, not exhaustion — bringing honesty, humor, and humanity to every conversation. Denise M. Brown is the founder and CEO of The Caregiving Years Training Academy and a pioneer in the caregiving field. For over 30 years, she’s helped individuals and workplaces navigate life’s toughest seasons with compassion and practical wisdom. 💌 Learn more: www.theempoweredexec.com (www.theempoweredexec.com) |www.careyearsacademy.com (https://www.careyearsacademy.com)

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