Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in Virginia. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey. The You Seem Fine podcast provides an inside look on how Hannah and Roland conduct therapy around that topic. as well as how they handle that personally in a segment called “Behind the Couch and Under the Cushion”. As a fun bonus, Hannah and Roland lean into their Swiftie side by sharing their Taylor Swift lyric of the week at the start of each episode during the “I Don’t Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift” segment.
*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL.*
With Main Character Energy, Comes Great Responsibility
00:00- Opening
00:17- Legal Disclosure
00:46- Personal Intro (Hannah)
00:58- Personal Intro (Roland)
01:14- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift
01:24- Roland's Swiftie Song
02:08- Roland's Explanation
05:07- Hannah's Swiftie Song
05:41- Hannah's Explanation
07:23- Hot Take Intro
07:37- LAST EPISODE!!!!
07:57- Emotional Ownership
08:18- Definition of Emotional Ownership
08:56- Accountability is Main Piece for Roland
09:19- Hot Take: Emotional Ownership Can Only Be Achieved Through Therapy
09:59- EQ Needs Coaching/Education Just Like IQ
10:33- Bettering EQ is like learning another language
11:51- Therapy is What is Seen; Unbiased & Objective
13:27- Friends Aren't Therapists
14:56: Responsibility
16:45- Not About Quick Fixes; About the Gray
17:56- Emotions Are Energy Analogy
20:05- Communication in Energy Transfer
22:14- Trickle Effect
23:30- Is Ghosting Emotional Ownership??
26:11- Answer? No, no it's not!
27:08- Infiltrates Others Spaces
28:39- Therapy, Ultimately, Is Key
30:34- Guidance & Safety Nets come from Therapy
32:22- Have Support; But They Are Always Biased
33:37- AGAIN, THERAPY!
35:16- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion
35:25- Behind the Couch (Hannah)
36:02- Giving Space to Emotion
36:36- Trauma Informed Approach
37:56- Extensive amount of trauma avenues
39:17- Curiosity & Questioning
39:51- Rapport & Safety
40:28- Content is not issue; it's emotional response
41:37- Awareness & Acknowledgement
41:59- Behind the Couch (Roland)
42:12- Challenge, Challenge, Challenge
42:42- Giving Permission & Teaching Permission
43:16- Honesty About What's Healthy
43:49- Safety & Permission to be Angry/Sad/Etc.
44:19- Water/Dam Analogy like Energy Analogy
45:13- Secure Attachment & Rapport Building
46:17- Accountability is Always Hard
46:33- Under the Cushion (Hannah)
46:52- Therapy was key
47:30- Practice Accountability & Overcome Avoidance
47:53- DBT
48:09- DBT Example
49:11- Allowing more than 1 thing to exist at once
50:42- Mowing Lawn Example
51:23- Better Tells through therapy
52:27- Under the Cushion (Roland)
52:40- Accountability For Self on lock, but not others
53:36- Consistent Avoidance
54:06- Follow up is important
54:46- Defense mechanisms vs. true conversations
55:22- Emotionally Aware is a Consistent journey
55:46- Recognition, Responsibility, Accountability
56:36- Was once the petty one
57:09- Authenticity is paramount
57:23- Outro
6 Feb 2026
I Like My Money Where I Can See It-- Hanging in my Closet.
00:00- Opening
00:17- Legal Disclosure
00:47- Personal Intro (Hannah)
00:58- Personal Intro (Roland)
01:14- I Don't Therapy, I have Taylor Swift
01:33- Roland's Swiftie Song
02:04- Roland's Explanation
03:04- Hannah's Swiftie Song
03:37- Hannah's Explanation
05:09- Hot Take Intro
05:18- Live to Work? Work to Live?
05:47- Hannah is Work to Live
05:56- Roland is ALSO Work to Live
06:35- You can definitely be both
07:02- Are passions living to work?
07:47- Work to Live Values Experiences
08:27- Hamster wheel of doing one to the other
08:49- Live to work; structure & purpose
09:56- Privilege & Status
11:51- Nuance & Mindset
14:26- Work to Live Can Be Glamorous
16:36- Happiness is a Mindset
17:31- Mentality is everything
17:56- Cultural Elements
18:54- Work has many definitions
19:35- USA isn't in top 10 of work/life balance
21:06- Capitalism!!
22:24- How difficult would it be to switch?
23:18- Exhaustion, Emotional Overload, etc.
25:30- Nervous System Tells All
26:15- Boundaries should be followed
27:11- Learned Behavior
28:07- Permission is Key
28:22- Maybe throw it all out!
29:23- Step Processes to Work-Life Balance
30:58- Hustle Culture & Productivity Shows Worth
32:25- Live both to understand yourself
32:47- One is not better than the other
33:22- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion
33:41- Behind the Couch (Hannah)
34:02- Unmet needs with live to work
34:33- Doing something takes the anxiety away
35:55- Overwhelmed Achievers are undecided
37:26- Millennials Are Work to Live
38:04- Reconnecting to the body/nervous system
39:20- What balance can be had?
39:50- CBT & EFT mainly
40:22- Behind the Couch (Roland)
40:34- Live to Work: High Stress & Pressure
40:57- Forget how to process/needs somatic work
41:24- Skills to process body stress
42:04- No fulfillment, constant searching for self
42:44- Being in the present is the overlap
43:28- Way to think about values
45:19- Under the Cushion (Hannah)
45:52- Resentment of work
46:12- Live to work space but still Work to Live
46:42- Client facing work is fulfilling
47:30- Never doubt the career path
48:25- Still work, but slow down with endless funds
50:32- Under the Cushion (Roland)
50:40- Blue Collar at the core
50:59- Minimalistic Mentality
51:23- Decided to be Work to Live
52:14- Giving to people is fulfilling
52:55- Lived for Work while working only
53:18- 50/50 Restlessness--Productivity calls!
54:31- Again, boundaries are important!
55:31- Outro
23 Jan 2026
The Cost of Caring (Not Covered by Insurance)
00:00- Opening
00:13- Legal Disclosure
00:42- Personal Intro (Hannah)
00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)
01:09- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift
01:21- Hannah's Swiftie Song
02:03- Hannah's Explanation
03:08- Roland's Swiftie Song
03:26- Roland's Explanation
04:45- Hot Take Intro
04:50- Disclaimer
05:23- Guest Star: Attorney Chip Clapp!
05:50- Chip's Attorney History~
07:51- HOT TAKE! Mandatory Therapy for
08:19- Empathy & Compassion for Trauma
09:14- Compartmentalization Balancing
09:57- Other Professions w/ Secondary Trauma
11:10- Vicarious Trauma for Healthcare Workers
13:13- Vicarious Trauma Definition
14:37- Intellectualize to Survive
16:32- Tough to Let Others Care for Themselves
17:46- Movements for Change Takes Time
20:11- What measures do we check?
21:22- Adjustment to Traumatic Situations
22:46- Burnout, Depression, Signs
23:19- Hospitalization, Therapy, Re-evaluations
24:28- What happens to livelihood?
26:52- Professions Need to be Respected
27:24- Business of Empathy
28:20- Conversational Language can be Dangerous
29:45- What's the line in the sand for a profession?
30:14- Accessible Therapy to the Public
32:11- Fear of Disability Label
34:11- Many Barriers
35:41- Getting people on board
38:21- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion
38:52- Behind the Couch (Roland)
39:16- Not Putting More Work In Than Client
39:29- Case Consultation
40:03- Personal Therapy
40:24- Validating the Heaviness in Session
41:47- Behind the Couch (Hannah)
42:33- Lifestyle Changes & Prevention
43:48- Acknowledging Wear & Tear
44:10- Regulation Skills & Resiliency
45:21- Under the Cushion (Roland)
45:44- Entitlement from Parents
46:38- Monetary/Hustle Culture Trauma
47:18- Death of Parents
48:33- Under the Cushion (Hannah)
49:10- Weight of Vicarious Trauma is Often
49:58- Visualization to Process
51:37- Mindfulness & Case Consultation
52:54- Empowerment through Client Success
53:32- Outro
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