
张小珺Jùn|商业访谈录
Hosted by 张小珺Jùn and 张小珺 · 张小珺
4.7from 48 ratings
- 159
- Episodes
- 98
- Transcribed
- 48
- Ratings
- Daily
- Cadence
- 2022
- First episode
About 张小珺Jùn|商业访谈录
和你一起,从这里,探索新世界! 《张小珺商业访谈录》是一档深度访谈节目,以2至7小时的长对话为形式,聚焦真实的人物表达与高密度的前沿信息。由语言即世界工作室出品。 主持人张小珺是财经媒体人,专注中国科技业深度报道,覆盖AI、科技巨头、风险投资与知名人物。曾13次获得国内外新闻奖项,其中2022年至2024年连续三届获得亚洲卓越新闻奖(SOPA)——被称为“亚洲普利策”。她也是语言即世界工作室的创始人。 “如果我的访谈能陪你走一段孤独的未知的路,也许有一天可以离目的地更近一点,我就很温暖。”——张小珺
- Publisher
- 张小珺
- Category
- business · society & culture · technology
- Language
- zh
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 29 Apr 2022
- Latest episode
- 3 Sept 2026
Latest episodes
98 of 159 episodes have a transcript.

3 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT
153. 和曾鸣聊产业史观:残酷的真相、会消亡的公司、优秀≠卓越、“OAI、Anth大概率不是原生时代大赢家”

26 Aug 2026TRANSCRIPT
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19 Aug 2026TRANSCRIPT
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153. 和曾鸣聊产业史观:残酷的真相、会消亡的公司、优秀≠卓越、“OAI、Anth大概率不是原生时代大赢家”
Published 3 Sept 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] If you leave the石油, you won't be able to buy it, right? But the石油 company, you won't be able to buy it. Have you ever heard of which one of the石油 companies is from the石油 company? I saw a lot of that in the 2024 year, said that OpenAI, the AGI company will definitely be bigger than Google. 只是大5倍还是大10倍的问题您刚才的论述的话我觉得您不仅不认为OpenEye可能是新时代AI时代的谷狗甚至觉得他们可能只是一个类似于历史上的过客的这样的公司吗他们甚至会消失是这么观点吗我是这个观点我相信未来会有一定会有一个10万亿美元的公司但是未必是现在领跑的这两家公司其实我理解陆琪博士想说的就是未来会有一家 AI时代的谷歌公司它很可能比现在的谷歌大十倍不,它说的是OpenAI我理解,我只是说但是那时候大家大概只想得到AI会代表到未来但是我是因为纯粹我自己是一个商业史的研究者最近也有时候开玩笑就是说因为硅谷现在最时髦的那个词或者说地位最高的词叫researcher一讲researcher大家就很尊重然后我觉得我现在也可以claim我也是个researcher 我只是研究商业世界的动力学规律 我能看到的理论框架告诉我的就是 第一阶段的企业很难活到第二阶段 第二阶段的企业很难活到第三阶段 为什么第一阶段企业很难回到第二阶段企业回到第三阶段企业按理说他们这么早就在这个市场上然后他对最前沿的信息也是最敏锐的他为什么不能及时转型呢比如说我马上从一家基础设施公司转型成为一家agent公司这个很顺畅我觉得不顺畅是因为第一阶段的技术核心是可不可用所以他有很多的原创的技术的创新第二阶段开始的标志是第一阶段的技术发展渐渐缓慢下来 And then it becomes a technology that can be used to use. […]
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张小珺Jùn and 张小珺 host the show. Published by 张小珺.
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