由两位世界史研究者发起的一档播客，从世界各地的热门年代剧出发，畅聊“这集”背后的历史话题。在这里，我们与喜欢看剧的学者朋友们对话，回味古今共享的叙事、探索人类历史的角落、触发跨越时代的灵光。
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由两位世界史研究者发起的一档播客，从世界各地的热门年代剧出发，畅聊“这集”背后的历史话题。在这里，我们与喜欢看剧的学者朋友们对话，回味古今共享的叙事、探索人类历史的角落、触发跨越时代的灵光。
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April 4, 2026
我们为什么爱看《罪人》
<figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Fnh8l4xWrFBAzSb6Qw4z8zgpKdEB.jpg"/></figure><p>被朋友疯狂安利的《罪人》，看完才发现根本不是恐怖片？从密西西比三角洲的布鲁斯派对，到弹着班卓琴的爱尔兰吸血鬼，音乐与动作元素被揉进吸血鬼故事的壳子，美国黑人研究的多年积累造就了瑞恩·库格勒举重若轻的通俗叙事。《逃出绝命镇》十年后，黑人恐怖片终于完成了自我超越。</p><p><strong>主播</strong></p><p>徐天，焦姣</p><p><strong>时间轴</strong></p><p>02:22 “黑人恐怖片”？最大的观影误导</p><p>06:10 前摇太长？当你发现这不是恐怖片而是动作片</p><p>07:56 片头的全球史：各种族歌唱传统</p><p>09:37 台山人与密西西比三角洲种族隔离</p><p>10:37 巫毒女巫与种植园经济</p><p>15:05 从学术到电影：爱尔兰人如何成为白人</p><p>19:11 从《逃出绝命镇》到《罪人》：从觊觎肉体到觊觎灵魂</p><p>23:43 文化挪用与Spike Lee的预言</p><p>27:53 “Sinners”的基督教意涵与罪人的迭代</p><p>31:05 吸血鬼的平等主义</p><p>35:24 1932年的Malcolm X式发言：宗教是强加的，布鲁斯才是我们的</p><p>37:14 三个结局：恐怖片、黑人剥削片与《月光男孩》</p><p>47:12 关于女性角色的一点补充讨论</p><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/FsTR2zEfwqrDkgad7gpvlbB2xpnS.png"/></figure><blockquote>Jitterbugging in a juke joint on Saturday evening outside Clarksdale, November 1939 (Marion Post Wolcott, Library of Congress, Washington D.C. [LC-USF34- 052594-D])</blockquote><p><strong>主播推荐</strong></p><p><a href="https://book.douban.com/subject/35873808/">《白人的工资》</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/26688480/">逃出绝命镇</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/26648249/">月光男孩</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/5265471/">唯爱永生</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/35750081/">美国内战 </a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1308789/">Bamboozled</a></p><p><strong>片头音乐：</strong>Juke</p><p><strong>插曲：</strong>Kanye West: Jesus Lord</p><p><strong>片尾音乐：</strong>Howlin' Wolf: Wang Dang Doodle</p><p>视觉设计 | 嘉文@不含观点°</p><p>剪辑 | Libing</p><p>运营 | KKK芸</p><p><strong>您可以通过以下途径收听到我们的节目</strong></p><ul> <li><a href="https://feed.xyzfm.space/j7d9mlny9ea6">节目RSS链接</a>/<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/cn/podcast/%E8%BF%99%E9%9B%86%E6%88%91%E7%9C%8B%E8%BF%87/id1651572616">Apple Podcast</a>/<a href="https://www.xyzfm.link/vdc98">小宇宙</a>/<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/31hb1TZ35CzDktf00I0plt">Spotify</a>/<a href="https://xima.tv/1_Xe68Dx?_sonic=0">喜马拉雅</a>/<a href="https://c6.y.qq.com/base/fcgi-bin/u?__=j0OfO0Nnh5b7">QQ音乐</a>/<a href="http://music.163.com/radio/983243612?userid=1358189948">网易云音乐</a>/<a href="http://m.lizhi.fm/vod/voicesheet/5273475822412546113?u=5274039092360355372">荔枝FM</a>/<a href="https://www.douban.com/doubanapp/dispatch?uri=/podcast/36733414/">豆瓣播客</a>/<a href="https://m.hupu.com/tag/129311">虎扑</a></li></ul><p>欢迎加入“这集我看过”微信听友群：微信搜索并添加“这集我看过”小助手:zjwkg_xzs</p>
March 18, 2026
与冷战史学者聊战后德国的美国电影
<figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/FsFt1NiMV3vf9_Bsr5syx5-uOK7s.jpg"/></figure><p>本期嘉宾枝枝是一位研究冷战时期美国对外宣传和美德关系的青年学者。她将与主播聊聊二战后美国电影如何进入德国，以及德国观众如何在银幕前重新思考国家未来与自身认同。从魏玛时期的进口配额制到冷战时期的文化宣传机器，从去德流美的比利·怀尔德到战后“翻墙追星”的东柏林影迷，让我们一同看看拍电影、审电影、卖电影、看电影这几件事在战火与国境间的复杂流变。</p><p><strong>嘉宾</strong></p><p>枝枝，徐天，焦姣</p><p><strong>时间轴</strong></p><p>02:00 为何关心德国人怎么看美国电影</p><p>04:19 魏玛时期的进口电影配额制</p><p>12:27 美国人如何理解电影宣传</p><p>14:08 四国占领与战后的电影真空</p><p>17:11 层层加码的战后电影审查机制</p><p>21:32 华纳兄弟的电影版“摩根索计划”</p><p>25:18 希特勒的《白雪公主》情结</p><p>29:02 东德观众如何“翻墙”看好莱坞大片</p><p>30:42 从“战利品电影”到柏林电影节</p><p>33:32 德裔流亡影人：怀尔德与黛德丽</p><p>41:02 冷战宣传的进化：从严格审查到有限批判</p><p>44:22 审片员的脑补与《幻想曲》的贝多芬争议</p><p>45:48 外汇担保制度：好莱坞如何在德国赚钱</p><p>53:54 德国观众真的爱看美国电影吗？</p><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Ft5-h958qd-tTaTdQG1JUUahKOiB.png"/></figure><p>ZWISCHEN GESTERN UND MORGEN, Harald Braun, 1947 | 图源：嘉宾提供</p><p><strong>嘉宾推荐</strong></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1296141/">《控方证人》</a><strong></strong></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1295427/">《蓝天使》</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1298733/">《日落大道》</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1297926/">《妮诺契卡》</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293226/">《双重赔偿》</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1300267/">《乱世佳人》</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292465/">《愤怒的葡萄》</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1310179/"> 《幻想曲》</a></p><p> <a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1297756/">《白雪公主与七个小矮人》</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/3284116/"> 《一个纳粹间谍的自白》</a></p><p><strong>片头音乐：</strong>In the Mood by Glenn Miller</p><p><strong>片尾音乐：</strong>One Song by Frank Churchill</p><p>视觉设计 | 嘉文@不含观点°</p><p>剪辑 | Libing</p><p>运营 | KKK芸</p><p><strong>您可以通过以下途径收听到我们的节目</strong></p><ul> <li><a href="https://feed.xyzfm.space/j7d9mlny9ea6">节目RSS链接</a>/<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/cn/podcast/%E8%BF%99%E9%9B%86%E6%88%91%E7%9C%8B%E8%BF%87/id1651572616">Apple Podcast</a>/<a href="https://www.xyzfm.link/vdc98">小宇宙</a>/<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/31hb1TZ35CzDktf00I0plt">Spotify</a>/<a href="https://xima.tv/1_Xe68Dx?_sonic=0">喜马拉雅</a>/<a href="https://c6.y.qq.com/base/fcgi-bin/u?__=j0OfO0Nnh5b7">QQ音乐</a>/<a href="http://music.163.com/radio/983243612?userid=1358189948">网易云音乐</a>/<a href="http://m.lizhi.fm/vod/voicesheet/5273475822412546113?u=5274039092360355372">荔枝FM</a>/<a href="https://www.douban.com/doubanapp/dispatch?uri=/podcast/36733414/">豆瓣播客</a>/<a href="https://m.hupu.com/tag/129311">虎扑</a></li></ul><p>欢迎加入“这集我看过”微信听友群：微信搜索并添加“这集我看过”小助手:zjwkg_xzs</p>
February 25, 2026
与英国史学者聊都铎王朝
<figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Fk_Wm0TmQxSPd42dhK5tFT1ydTWg.jpg"/></figure><p>在有关伊丽莎白一世宫廷的影视作品中，首席国务大臣沃尔辛厄姆总是隐藏在阴影中的神秘角色。作为英国情报系统之父，他是十六世纪的007吗？是女王的股肱重臣，还是大英军机处的免费牛马？历史学者如何在故纸堆中发掘密谋与谍报的踪迹？本期邀请英国史学者杜宣莹聊聊她有关沃尔辛厄姆的译作，并吐槽大众影视剧中的都铎王朝。</p><p><strong>嘉宾</strong></p><p>杜宣莹，徐天，焦姣</p><p><strong>时间轴</strong></p><p>02:31 谁是沃尔辛厄姆</p><p>11:27 都铎王朝八卦之源亨利八世</p><p>20:04 从剑桥革命学生到特务头子</p><p>27:53 “血腥玛丽”是怎样被污名化的</p><p>37:53 请苏格兰女王入瓮</p><p>46:14 十六世纪的情报网</p><p>53:10 历史学家如何发掘情报网</p><p>61:40 昂贵的情报与女王的平衡术</p><p>71:02 大众影视中的不靠谱都铎形象</p><p>78:42 英国史学者推荐三部英国宫廷戏</p><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/FuN5Pe-svtSq_GZHIrUWnbFkqLcU.png"/></figure><blockquote>伊丽莎白一世、沃尔辛厄姆与伯利男爵 ｜ 1655年印刷 | Source: National Galleries of Scotland</blockquote><p><strong>嘉宾推荐</strong></p><p><a href="https://book.douban.com/subject/37286911/">《都铎谍影：弗朗西斯·沃尔辛厄姆与伊丽莎白一世的宫廷》</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1300802/">玛戈王后 </a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1296223/">伊丽莎白 1</a>｜<a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1827042/">伊丽莎白2</a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/26628282/">宠儿 </a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/4023638/">国王的演讲 </a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/26427152/">王冠 </a></p><p><a href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/2210001/">大明王朝1566</a></p><p><strong>片头音乐：</strong>Courante dance music by Erasmus Wildemann</p><p><strong>片尾音乐：</strong>We're Tudors by Ben Willbond & Martha Howe-Douglas</p><p>报！！！我们参与了荔枝x联邦走马的播客日历！在一年的365天中，总有”这集“陪伴你~</p><p>凭暗号"这集我看过"可享受粉丝专属85折（需要一定时间让客服人工改价，还请大家在下单时多多包涵……</p><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/FkxhpFcrAK5x-p592HKBZBuJE25L.jpg"/></figure><p>视觉设计 | 嘉文@不含观点°</p><p>剪辑 | Libing</p><p>运营 | KKK芸</p><p><strong>您可以通过以下途径收听到我们的节目</strong></p><ul> <li><a href="https://feed.xyzfm.space/j7d9mlny9ea6">节目RSS链接</a>/<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/cn/podcast/%E8%BF%99%E9%9B%86%E6%88%91%E7%9C%8B%E8%BF%87/id1651572616">Apple Podcast</a>/<a href="https://www.xyzfm.link/vdc98">小宇宙</a>/<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/31hb1TZ35CzDktf00I0plt">Spotify</a>/<a href="https://xima.tv/1_Xe68Dx?_sonic=0">喜马拉雅</a>/<a href="https://c6.y.qq.com/base/fcgi-bin/u?__=j0OfO0Nnh5b7">QQ音乐</a>/<a href="http://music.163.com/radio/983243612?userid=1358189948">网易云音乐</a>/<a href="http://m.lizhi.fm/vod/voicesheet/5273475822412546113?u=5274039092360355372">荔枝FM</a>/<a href="https://www.douban.com/doubanapp/dispatch?uri=/podcast/36733414/">豆瓣播客</a>/<a href="https://m.hupu.com/tag/129311">虎扑</a></li></ul><p>欢迎加入“这集我看过”微信听友群：微信搜索并添加“这集我看过”小助手:zjwkg_xzs</p>
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