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April 20, 2025
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>大家好，欢迎收听新一期的「巴塔客」，我是老曾。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>今天这期节目是我从新疆伊犁为大家带来。本期的主题是滑雪，节目中我邀请到了两位资深的滑雪“老炮”，一位是曾经在「巴塔客」第33期中做客过节目的大尼克，另外一位则是户外纪录片导演陈春石。加上我本人，我们三个人加起来有将近五十年的“雪龄”。真的很老对不对？哈哈！</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>节目中我们主要聊的是对滑雪，尤其是野雪运动的见解。大尼克主要谈风筝滑雪，这项从风筝冲浪和滑雪衍生出来的新兴运动；陈导则从滑雪运动纪录片导演的角度谈论国内滑雪运动这些年的变迁。我们每个人开始这些运动的经历、装备选择、安全措施以及对自然环境的尊重，以及团队合作在探索未知领域时的重要性。因为雪崩安全在野雪运动里很重要，我们着重讨论了雪崩安全设备和救援。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>这次的访谈，虽然在风景优美的新疆伊犁大雪山中，内容并不是关于滑雪运动技巧，也不是新疆滑雪攻略。是滑雪运动把我们联系到了一起，TA也已经成为我们每个人生活中重要的一部分。滑雪带给我们快乐，也让我们对自然和自身有了更深刻理解。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>欢迎收听本期的节目！</span></p><span><br></span><hr style="border:0px;margin:20px 0px;background:#ddd;display:inline-block;width:100%;border-style:solid;height:1px;"><br><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/771f-audiofreehighqps/47/FB/GKwRIJEL2QTnAAeUeQOans37.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/771f-audiofreehighqps/47/FB/GKwRIJEL2QTnAAeUeQOans37.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/771f-audiofreehighqps/47/FB/GKwRIJEL2QTnAAeUeQOans37.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="500.2605523710266" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/771f-audiofreehighqps/47/FB/GKwRIJEL2QTnAAeUeQOans37.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.38196977592496"><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>本期嘉宾：陈春石</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="1" 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src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4223-audiofreehighqps/23/1F/GAqhF9kL2QXzAAzvXAOan3ea.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4223-audiofreehighqps/23/1F/GAqhF9kL2QXzAAzvXAOan3ea.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4223-audiofreehighqps/23/1F/GAqhF9kL2QXzAAzvXAOan3ea.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="421.875" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4223-audiofreehighqps/23/1F/GAqhF9kL2QXzAAzvXAOan3ea.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="78.75"></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>本期嘉宾：大尼克</span></p><span><br></span><p 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style="border:0px;margin:20px 0px;background:#ddd;display:inline-block;width:100%;border-style:solid;height:1px;"><br><br><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>时间轴：</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:00 中国户外运动及纪录片的发展与变化</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">03:52 从风筝冲浪到风筝滑雪的跨界之旅</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">08:38 从大学体验到专注滑野雪：陈导的滑雪之旅</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">11:30 从野雪到滑雪：大尼克的滑雪初体验</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">16:51 从雪道到野雪：滑雪体验的转变</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">19:39 从道内滑雪到野雪的技巧转变</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">23:27 滑雪摄影：无人机技术的革命性影响</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">28:51 早期滑雪纪录片对现代滑雪运动的影响</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">31:57 风筝冲浪与风筝滑雪的关联与技巧</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">40:11 风筝滑雪的体验与探险</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">42:34 滑野雪与风筝滑雪的风险与安全措施</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">49:07 新疆滑雪体验与户外安全准备</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">53:28 滑野雪的安全准备与注意事项</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">57:28 雪崩三件套在滑雪安全中的重要性及应用</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">65:38 雪山运动对个人的影响与体验分享</p><span><br></span><span><br></span><span><br></span><br><img data-key="6" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/add7-audiofreehighqps/43/99/GKwRIUEL2QZLAABuVQOan6XO.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/add7-audiofreehighqps/43/99/GKwRIUEL2QZLAABuVQOan6XO.jpg?op_type=0" 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April 5, 2025
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">大家好，欢迎回到「巴塔客」播客频道，我是老曾。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">今天这期节目是我从海南万宁为大家带来。提到万宁，很多熟悉户外运动的朋友自然就联想到冲浪。那么这期节目主题就是关于冲浪，嘉宾是我的老朋友、中国冲浪OG之一，「沙卡冲浪俱乐部」、「Goofy Dog」以及「Tempo」 的主理人，同时也一直致力推广中国冲浪文化的阿超。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">节目中，我们从阿超的青年时代开始聊起，作为一个在长江边长大的孩子，他是如何接触到海洋以及冲浪运动，进而发展出深厚情感和专业追求。又是怎样的想法让他决定从大学辍学，一头扎入到冲浪运动以及冲浪文化推广这条路上？在他的眼中国内冲浪的发展历程是怎样的，商业的潮起潮落又给中国冲浪运动发展带来怎样的影响？我们的对谈也触及他追求的冲浪生活方式以及冲浪文化，以及阿超是如何一直尝试在冲浪、做生意以及推广冲浪文化之间寻求某种平衡。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">欢迎收听本期节目。</p><br><hr style="border:0px;margin:20px 0px;background:#ddd;display:inline-block;width:100%;border-style:solid;height:1px;"><br><br><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1789-audiofreehighqps/3A/71/GKwRIDoLxkmKAAz9QgOPphHl.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1789-audiofreehighqps/3A/71/GKwRIDoLxkmKAAz9QgOPphHl.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1789-audiofreehighqps/3A/71/GKwRIDoLxkmKAAz9QgOPphHl.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" 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data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/942b-audiofreehighqps/17/66/GKwRIUELxknCAAUpNQOPpjf1.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="100.19880715705766"></p><span><br></span><hr style="border:0px;margin:20px 0px;background:#ddd;display:inline-block;width:100%;border-style:solid;height:1px;"><br><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:00 中国冲浪文化与游泳的重要性</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">04:51 从大学生到冲浪商人：一个冲浪爱好者的历程</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">09:27 冲浪运动的早期发展与商业介入</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">14:51 沙卡冲浪店的起源与第一次见面</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">17:01 冲浪行业的独特魅力及水母风险 </p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">21:49 疫情期间冲浪运动及其行业的发展变化</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">25:39 中国冲浪运动的发展与文化沉淀</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">29:28 冲浪文化的演变与独特魅力</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">33:43 冲浪运动的文化、运动与商业交融</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">37:30 中国冲浪文化与电子音乐推广的跨界探索</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">46:49 冲浪对人生轨迹的重大影响</p><span><br></span><br><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" 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March 18, 2025
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">大家好，欢迎收听新一期的「巴塔客」，我是老曾</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">今天我邀请到的也是一位老朋友、老「巴塔客」，他就是来自云南老君山黎明攀岩社区的周磊</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">周磊曾在「巴塔客」第63期做客过一次咱们的节目，当时是我去参加「黎明老君山传统攀岩节」。现在半年多过去了，我们又在patagonia上海梦中心新店相遇，那势必要再次邀请他当一次「巴塔回头客」。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">本期节目，我们主要把对话集中在两个方面，一方面是关于传统攀岩，我们如果去学习和训练传统攀岩，室内岩馆的传统攀岩路线与真实自然环境中的有何区别？另一方面就是关于目前云南老君山黎明攀岩社区的现状，包括攀岩社区的建设、如何建立可持续发展的健康攀岩生态圈以及与政府携手共建黎明老君山攀岩的合规发展。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">欢迎各位收听</p><br><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/6697-audiofreehighqps/69/8C/GAqhqKwLrtRJACdxGAOAwG2k.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/6697-audiofreehighqps/69/8C/GAqhqKwLrtRJACdxGAOAwG2k.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/6697-audiofreehighqps/69/8C/GAqhqKwLrtRJACdxGAOAwG2k.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1125" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/6697-audiofreehighqps/69/8C/GAqhqKwLrtRJACdxGAOAwG2k.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="210"><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>本期嘉宾：周磊</span></p><span><br></span><span><br></span><span><br></span><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/69a9-audiofreehighqps/A8/E4/GKwRIW4LrtRhADUDhgOAwHa_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/69a9-audiofreehighqps/A8/E4/GKwRIW4LrtRhADUDhgOAwHa_.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/69a9-audiofreehighqps/A8/E4/GKwRIW4LrtRhADUDhgOAwHa_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/69a9-audiofreehighqps/A8/E4/GKwRIW4LrtRhADUDhgOAwHa_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>黎明攀岩社区的夜晚</span></p><span><br></span><p 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style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="3" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0868-audiofreehighqps/66/8F/GKwRIJILrtTnABMsKQOAwLCV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0868-audiofreehighqps/66/8F/GKwRIJILrtTnABMsKQOAwLCV.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0868-audiofreehighqps/66/8F/GKwRIJILrtTnABMsKQOAwLCV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="500.1414027149321" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0868-audiofreehighqps/66/8F/GKwRIJILrtTnABMsKQOAwLCV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.35972850678732"></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="4" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3de8-audiofreehighqps/46/7A/GAqh1QQLrtT0AATOcgOAwLZ_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3de8-audiofreehighqps/46/7A/GAqh1QQLrtT0AATOcgOAwLZ_.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3de8-audiofreehighqps/46/7A/GAqh1QQLrtT0AATOcgOAwLZ_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="499.6875" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3de8-audiofreehighqps/46/7A/GAqh1QQLrtT0AATOcgOAwLZ_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.275"></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="5" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/af6d-audiofreehighqps/8C/AE/GKwRIaILrtUAAAbc5wOAwL2X.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/af6d-audiofreehighqps/8C/AE/GKwRIaILrtUAAAbc5wOAwL2X.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/af6d-audiofreehighqps/8C/AE/GKwRIaILrtUAAAbc5wOAwL2X.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/af6d-audiofreehighqps/8C/AE/GKwRIaILrtUAAAbc5wOAwL2X.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.66666666666666"></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="6" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4281-audiofreehighqps/26/BA/GAqhqKwLrtUQAARy4wOAwMQl.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4281-audiofreehighqps/26/BA/GAqhqKwLrtUQAARy4wOAwMQl.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4281-audiofreehighqps/26/BA/GAqhqKwLrtUQAARy4wOAwMQl.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1062.3046875" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4281-audiofreehighqps/26/BA/GAqhqKwLrtUQAARy4wOAwMQl.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="198.296875"></p><span><br></span><hr style="border:0px;margin:20px 0px;background:#ddd;display:inline-block;width:100%;border-style:solid;height:1px;"><br><br><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:00 云南攀岩冬季活动及傈僳族生活习性探讨</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">04:27 后疫情时代黎明攀岩社区的重建与挑战</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">09:05 攀岩社区活动的组织与参与</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">12:57 社区活动的两种模式及其内容</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">16:53 社区志愿者的贡献与在地可持续发展</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">21:40 外来者与当地村民的逐渐信任建立</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">26:52 攀岩带动黎明村乡村振兴实践</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">30:39 中国攀岩社区的发展与体验</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">34:32 攀岩：从岩馆到自然岩壁的体验差异</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">37:38 攀岩：从室内岩馆到野外自然岩壁的过渡与训练</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">43:26 攀岩体验与训练方法分享</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">45:50 攀岩培训与传统路线教学的重要性</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">49:17 黎明村攀岩产业的合规发展与村民共识</p><span><br></span><p 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