人生无常，何必正常。「近于正常」是一档偏文学向的、泛文化播客。不定期更新，每期一个主题，和你分享近期触动我的文艺切片，可能是好书，好剧，电影，艺术，展览。
主播甜菜，视频号文学博主，野生话痨。 节目将不定期邀请读书博主的奇奇怪怪朋友们来做客，从读书追剧看片逛展聊起，进入审美的日常生活。
欢迎订阅收听。也可在微信视频号：甜菜读书 找到我。
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人生无常，何必正常。「近于正常」是一档偏文学向的、泛文化播客。不定期更新，每期一个主题，和你分享近期触动我的文艺切片，可能是好书，好剧，电影，艺术，展览。 主播甜菜，视频号文学博主，野生话痨。 节目将不定期邀请读书博主的奇奇怪怪朋友们来做客，从读书追剧看片逛展聊起，进入审美的日常生活。 欢迎订阅收听。也可在微信视频号：甜菜读书 找到我。
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May 28, 2026
Vol.144像人类学家一样旅行｜对谈班卓《燃烧的龙舌兰》
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>“一个人走在路上，是没有历史的人。唯一的身份就是traveler。”</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b><span>嘉宾：班卓</span></b><span>《燃烧的龙舌兰》《陌生的阿富汗》作者，大学教师，现居南宁</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8be2-audiofreehighqps/86/64/GKwRIMAN7iA6AAS8ugSf8mta.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8be2-audiofreehighqps/86/64/GKwRIMAN7iA6AAS8ugSf8mta.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8be2-audiofreehighqps/86/64/GKwRIMAN7iA6AAS8ugSf8mta.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1122.9166666666667" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8be2-audiofreehighqps/86/64/GKwRIMAN7iA6AAS8ugSf8mta.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="209.61111111111111"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b><span>主播：甜菜</span></b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>2010年，班卓独行墨西哥。没有智能手机，没有</span><span>旅行攻略，</span><span>她靠沙发客住进陌生人家里，走进玛雅村落，</span><span>参观龙舌兰农场</span><span>，</span><span>潜入海底与</span><span>海龟</span><span>鹰鳐捉迷藏，还去彩虹森林</span><span>，</span><span>尝了致幻蘑菇</span><span>……</span><span>这不是一本去了哪里的游记，</span><span>而是一本能让你感受到即使身在原地，也可以和世界产生连接的书。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>班卓说：“因心灵的敞开，我从未失去与世界的关联。”</span><span>本期节目，特邀嘉宾班卓老师将</span><span>同大家分享她在旅行途中与亲爱的人们相遇的点滴与感动。</span><span>世界再远，亦可在场。欢迎收听~</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/08c2-audiofreehighqps/9D/58/GAqhcW4N7imJAALGuQSf9O-q.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/08c2-audiofreehighqps/9D/58/GAqhcW4N7imJAALGuQSf9O-q.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/08c2-audiofreehighqps/9D/58/GAqhcW4N7imJAALGuQSf9O-q.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="500.7824726134586" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/08c2-audiofreehighqps/9D/58/GAqhcW4N7imJAALGuQSf9O-q.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.4793948878456"><br></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b><span>【收听提示】</span></b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>4:</span><span>00旅行就是被现实校正：脑海里的龙舌兰和革命浪漫主义，到了墨西哥才发现“断裂”。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>15:16</span><span>相遇不一定是问。看见就已经是相遇。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>18:30</span><span>语言，是墙还是桥？最底层的连接，不靠说话。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>23:08</span><span>沙发客往事：为了遇见有趣的人</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>35:10</span><span>为什么陌生人总向她敞开大门？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>41:30</span><span>墨西哥女性的强悍与脆弱</span><span>：拉美魔幻现实主义是“真的”</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>50:34</span><span>当旅途中遇到误解和</span><span>政治</span><span>争论</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>53:30</span><span>神奇蘑菇体验与嬉皮士大会</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>1:02:18</span><span>墨西哥潜水的独特体验</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>1:07:25</span><span>穿插的旅行宇宙：第三本书已经在路上</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>1:12:08</span><span>什么是人类学式旅行？关于心灵流浪的旅行文学</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>1:21:26</span><span>重返墨西哥？过客心态</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>1:23:43</span><span>为何不再独自旅行？奥德赛时期的结束</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b><span>【提及作品】</span></b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>书籍：</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《</span><span>燃烧的龙舌兰:一个女人的墨西哥行记</span><span>》</span><span>班卓/上海人民出版社/出品方: </span><span>世纪文景</span><span> / </span><span>字游一刻</span><span>2026</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《</span><span>陌生的阿富汗:一个女人的独行漫记</span><span>》</span><span>班卓/上海人民出版社/ 2024</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《</span><span>蒙面骑士:墨西哥副司令马科斯文集</span><span>》</span><span>戴锦华/刘健芝 主编/上海人民出版社/ 2006</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《百年孤独》《霍乱时期的爱情》等拉美魔幻现实主义小说</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>电影：</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《墨西哥万岁》</span><span>1979纪录片</span><span>谢尔盖·爱森斯坦</span><span>导演</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《碧海蓝天》1988</span><span>吕克·贝松</span><span>导演</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《荒野生存》2007</span><span>西恩·潘</span><span>导演</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《寻梦环游记》</span><span>2017动画电影</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>片头曲：Los Lobos - El Cascabel</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>※ 音质说明：本期录制于2026.5.24寻麓书馆</span><span>活动现场，因存储卡突然损坏，原本录制的音频无法修复，后期剪辑改用备用的环境音，音质不完美。但班卓的分享足够精彩，拥抱不确定性吧。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b><span>【关于近于正常】</span></b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>人生无常，何必正常。「近于正常」是一档偏文学向的、泛文化播客。不定期更新，每期一个主题，和你分享近期触动我的文艺切片，可能是好书，好剧电影，艺术展览。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>主播甜菜，视频号【甜菜读书】文学博主。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>订阅渠道：小宇宙|喜马拉雅|Apple Podcast|网易云音乐|荔枝FM</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>公众号/微博：甜菜王</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>视频号/小红薯：甜菜读书</span></p>
April 27, 2026
Vol.143自然观察入门，一个人去公园能干什么？
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><b>嘉宾：赵艳华</b></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>自然文学写作者，博物观察者，高中语文教师。生于河南，定居岭南。观鸟、夜间动植物观察8年。</span><span>著有首部</span><span>散文集《四十六岁，大雪》。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3e2a-audiofreehighqps/95/2C/GKwRIJINxTliAAJa4wSQ5Y1u.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3e2a-audiofreehighqps/95/2C/GKwRIJINxTliAAJa4wSQ5Y1u.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3e2a-audiofreehighqps/95/2C/GKwRIJINxTliAAJa4wSQ5Y1u.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="750" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3e2a-audiofreehighqps/95/2C/GKwRIJINxTliAAJa4wSQ5Y1u.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="140"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><b>主播：甜菜</b></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>在城市公园的荒地里蹲守，等一只罕见的绿翅金鸠；在白千层树下，看蜜蜂与胡蜂厮杀了一个夏天；深夜的草丛边，与一条银环蛇无声对峙——这些，是赵艳华过去八年里观树、观虫、观蛇、夜行观察时看见的世界。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>她是高中语文老师，也是自然观察8年的博物爱好者。丈夫患病七年，她把自己“种”进城市公园、山林、水潭边，在草木虫鸟的呼吸中，安放无处可说的悲伤。她把这一切写进《四十六岁，大雪》，<span>重新生长出力量。</span></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>世界地球日这天，</span><span>我跟</span><span>赵艳华</span><span>老师</span><span>远程连线，聊</span><span>了</span><span>聊一个人可以从哪里开始，与万物重建联系？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">听完这期，你可能真的会想去公园开启你的自然观察之旅。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span> <img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0375-audiofreehighqps/91/64/GAqhuykNxTwbAAIUrwSQ5rOF.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0375-audiofreehighqps/91/64/GAqhuykNxTwbAAIUrwSQ5rOF.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0375-audiofreehighqps/91/64/GAqhuykNxTwbAAIUrwSQ5rOF.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1075" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0375-audiofreehighqps/91/64/GAqhuykNxTwbAAIUrwSQ5rOF.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="200.66666666666666"></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><b>【时间轴】</b></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>00:40</span><span>嘉宾介绍</span><span><br></span><span>02:49</span><span>高中语文老师怎么迷上自然观察的？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><br></span><span>06:10从家门口开始：城市公园里的微观宇宙</span><span><br></span><span>08:57观树</span><span>-</span><span>乌桕树的故事</span><span>：</span><span>从诗词到生活，一片叶子的凝视</span><span><br></span><span>15:35古典诗词与自然观察的审美优势</span><span>，</span><span>苏轼也是博物爱好者？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="2" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/54a4-audiofreehighqps/2B/79/GAqhQKINxTnBAAhZGgSQ5bw7.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/54a4-audiofreehighqps/2B/79/GAqhQKINxTnBAAhZGgSQ5bw7.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/54a4-audiofreehighqps/2B/79/GAqhQKINxTnBAAhZGgSQ5bw7.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/54a4-audiofreehighqps/2B/79/GAqhQKINxTnBAAhZGgSQ5bw7.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.66666666666666"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>乌桕树</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>21:47观虫：蜜蜂</span><span>与</span><span>胡蜂大战</span><span>，</span><span>精彩堪比纪录片；</span><span>知道名字</span><span>是自然观察的开始</span><span><br></span><span>28:00等待是必备技能：“无所得也是一种得”</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="3" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3b5b-audiofreehighqps/1C/BE/GKwRIJINxTnyAAT4hASQ5dSw.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3b5b-audiofreehighqps/1C/BE/GKwRIJINxTnyAAT4hASQ5dSw.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3b5b-audiofreehighqps/1C/BE/GKwRIJINxTnyAAT4hASQ5dSw.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="697.7513227513227" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3b5b-audiofreehighqps/1C/BE/GKwRIJINxTnyAAT4hASQ5dSw.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="130.2469135802469"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>洗澡的海南蓝仙鹟</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="4" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/63c3-audiofreehighqps/EE/A8/GKwRIDoNxToeAALYDASQ5er_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/63c3-audiofreehighqps/EE/A8/GKwRIDoNxToeAALYDASQ5er_.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/63c3-audiofreehighqps/EE/A8/GKwRIDoNxToeAALYDASQ5er_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="681.8181818181818" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/63c3-audiofreehighqps/EE/A8/GKwRIDoNxToeAALYDASQ5er_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="127.27272727272727"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>天河公园的<span>花细狭口蛙</span></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="5" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/c265-audiofreehighqps/0E/A8/GKwRIRwNxTo8AAJbhwSQ5fdK.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/c265-audiofreehighqps/0E/A8/GKwRIRwNxTo8AAJbhwSQ5fdK.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/c265-audiofreehighqps/0E/A8/GKwRIRwNxTo8AAJbhwSQ5fdK.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="972.2222222222222" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/c265-audiofreehighqps/0E/A8/GKwRIRwNxTo8AAJbhwSQ5fdK.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="181.48148148148147"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>黑眶蟾蜍<br></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>31:36小水潭生态：几平方米的娑婆世界</span><span>：</span><span>小鸟洗澡，蛙的王国，植物绞杀</span><span><br></span><span>40:40</span><span>奇怪的观察点：</span><span>公园公厕附近</span><span>——</span><span>“鸟人梗”</span><span>？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="6" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/927f-audiofreehighqps/00/A4/GAqhVLMNxTvAAAOzugSQ5o2P.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/927f-audiofreehighqps/00/A4/GAqhVLMNxTvAAAOzugSQ5o2P.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/927f-audiofreehighqps/00/A4/GAqhVLMNxTvAAAOzugSQ5o2P.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/927f-audiofreehighqps/00/A4/GAqhVLMNxTvAAAOzugSQ5o2P.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.66666666666666"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>赵老师在夜观</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="7" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/78af-audiofreehighqps/92/29/GKwRIW4NxTqGAAYXpgSQ5hRd.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/78af-audiofreehighqps/92/29/GKwRIW4NxTqGAAYXpgSQ5hRd.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/78af-audiofreehighqps/92/29/GKwRIW4NxTqGAAYXpgSQ5hRd.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/78af-audiofreehighqps/92/29/GKwRIW4NxTqGAAYXpgSQ5hRd.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>银环蛇</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>42:50观蛇：从害怕到</span><span>祛魅到</span><span>期待</span><span><br></span><span>48:30观蛇改变了对恐惧的态度</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>53:10打开感官：听音辨鸟</span><span><br></span><span>57:24装备</span><span>极简，何时升级？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>61:17“加新”与“自留地”两种观鸟方式，从狂热到从容</span><span><br></span><span>64:05反对“打鸟”</span><span>说法</span><span>和</span><span>为出片</span><span>干扰鸟类育雏</span><span>的行为</span><span><br></span><span>66:30节气</span><span>与自然观察的关联</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="8" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/e8ca-audiofreehighqps/4C/98/GKwRIW4NxTrVAAWcjQSQ5jE6.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/e8ca-audiofreehighqps/4C/98/GKwRIW4NxTrVAAWcjQSQ5jE6.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/e8ca-audiofreehighqps/4C/98/GKwRIW4NxTrVAAWcjQSQ5jE6.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/e8ca-audiofreehighqps/4C/98/GKwRIW4NxTrVAAWcjQSQ5jE6.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>和学生在夜观</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="9" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0ddd-audiofreehighqps/F0/E4/GAqhVLMNxTruAAMMuQSQ5jsC.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0ddd-audiofreehighqps/F0/E4/GAqhVLMNxTruAAMMuQSQ5jsC.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0ddd-audiofreehighqps/F0/E4/GAqhVLMNxTruAAMMuQSQ5jsC.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0ddd-audiofreehighqps/F0/E4/GAqhVLMNxTruAAMMuQSQ5jsC.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>火炉山春天，红耳鹎雏鸟们</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="10" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/90bf-audiofreehighqps/6F/D1/GAqhy90NxTskAAKpOQSQ5k6_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/90bf-audiofreehighqps/6F/D1/GAqhy90NxTskAAKpOQSQ5k6_.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/90bf-audiofreehighqps/6F/D1/GAqhy90NxTskAAKpOQSQ5k6_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/90bf-audiofreehighqps/6F/D1/GAqhy90NxTskAAKpOQSQ5k6_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>求偶中的泽陆蛙</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>70:00夜行观察的魅力</span><span>，</span><span>越夜越精彩</span><span><br></span><span>71:15</span><span>夜观入门：穿什么、带什么、几点去</span><span>、看什么</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>夜观见闻：睡觉的暗绿绣眼鸟宝宝、黄屁股的红耳鹎宝宝</span><span>，</span><span>萤火虫仿佛来自冥界，斑腿泛树蛙</span><span>……</span><span><br></span><span>73:53夜观设备及安全</span><span>需知</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="11" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/d520-audiofreehighqps/55/14/GKwRIUENxTtUAAFeqQSQ5mLJ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/d520-audiofreehighqps/55/14/GKwRIUENxTtUAAFeqQSQ5mLJ.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/d520-audiofreehighqps/55/14/GKwRIUENxTtUAAFeqQSQ5mLJ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="687.6061120543294" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/d520-audiofreehighqps/55/14/GKwRIUENxTtUAAFeqQSQ5mLJ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="128.35314091680814"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>雪地中的云雀</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="12" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4356-audiofreehighqps/3A/12/GAqhJLsNxTuBAAG4CASQ5nUA.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4356-audiofreehighqps/3A/12/GAqhJLsNxTuBAAG4CASQ5nUA.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4356-audiofreehighqps/3A/12/GAqhJLsNxTuBAAG4CASQ5nUA.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="581.8965517241379" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4356-audiofreehighqps/3A/12/GAqhJLsNxTuBAAG4CASQ5nUA.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="108.62068965517241"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>白腰草鹬</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>77:37南北风物：用南方观鸟技能重新发现河南老家</span><span><br></span><span>79:33从博物学角度写</span><span>河南历史写人</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><br></span><span>83:06自然如何</span><span>接住了一个人？</span><span><br></span><span>87:49</span><span>重建自我</span><span>：</span><span>“我不是哀伤的寡妇，而是</span><span>品</span><span>味人生悲欢的女人”</span><span><br></span><span>90:09寄语：找到自己的热爱之物</span><span><br></span><span>94:20</span><span>自然文学</span><span>书单推荐：《游隼》《</span><span>听客溪的</span><span>朝圣》《在黄昏起飞》</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>以上配图均是赵艳华老师拍摄</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b><span>【提及作品】</span></b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>书籍：</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《四十六岁，大雪》</span><span>赵艳华/广东人民出版社/ 2026-3</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《游隼》</span><span>[英]J.A.贝克/李斯本/北京日报出版社/ 2023-2</span> </p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《</span><span>听客溪的</span><span>朝圣》</span><span>[美]安妮·迪拉德/余幼珊/广西师范大学出版社/ 2024-4</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《在黄昏起飞》</span><span>[英]海伦·麦克唐纳/周玮/上海人民出版社/ 2023-6</span> </p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《诗经植物图鉴》</span><span>潘富俊/上海书店出版社/ 2003-01</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>文章：《今夜观蛇去》发于单读</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>视频号：赵艳华博物志</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>片头曲：</span><span>《森林狂想曲》吴金黛</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>本期录制于2026年4月22日成都以籍书店</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="13" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ee55-audiofreehighqps/0A/0D/GAqhHAMNxUOVAAm6pwSQ6Vjd.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ee55-audiofreehighqps/0A/0D/GAqhHAMNxUOVAAm6pwSQ6Vjd.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ee55-audiofreehighqps/0A/0D/GAqhHAMNxUOVAAm6pwSQ6Vjd.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="568.8920454545455" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ee55-audiofreehighqps/0A/0D/GAqhHAMNxUOVAAm6pwSQ6Vjd.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="106.19318181818183"><br></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b><span>【关于近于正常】</span></b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>人生无常，何必正常。「近于正常」是一档偏文学向的、泛文化播客。不定期更新，每期一个主题，和你分享近期触动我的文艺切片，可能是好书，好剧电影，艺术展览。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>主播甜菜，视频号【甜菜读书】文学博主。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>订阅渠道：小宇宙|喜马拉雅|Apple Podcast|网易云音乐|荔枝FM</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>公众号/微博：甜菜王</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>视频号/小红薯：甜菜读书</span></p>
April 14, 2026
Vol.142让死亡回到生命里：死亡终将敲门，我们能做哪些准备？
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">当亲人病危，“救还是不救”成了艰难的选择。呼吸机、ICU、ECMO——现代医学把死亡变成了一场漫长拉扯。我们学会了延长生命，却没有学会好好告别。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">科学记者雪竹，花了四年时间走进急诊室、ICU和安宁病房，采访了数十位临终患者、家属、医护和志愿者，写下《让死亡回到生命里》，一本适合中国人阅读的死亡教育手记。她说：写完这本书，我更害怕死亡了。我做的第一件事，就是时隔五年去做了体检。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">这期节目，我和雪竹一起聊聊：死亡终将到来，我们能做哪些准备？不是教你不怕死，而是让你在怕的同时，找到行动的可能。聊死亡，是为了更好地活着。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">如果你也对死亡感到不安，或者正在面对亲人的疾病与告别，希望这期节目能陪你一段时光。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>嘉宾：雪竹</b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">资深科学记者，果壳网、科普中国等平台作家。著有非虚构作品《让死亡回到生命里》。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>主播：甜菜</b></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">录制于2026年4月10日以籍书店</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/d8d6-audiofreehighqps/BE/CA/GKwRIJENtAdNAAb7YgSKPgCK.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/d8d6-audiofreehighqps/BE/CA/GKwRIJENtAdNAAb7YgSKPgCK.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/d8d6-audiofreehighqps/BE/CA/GKwRIJENtAdNAAb7YgSKPgCK.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="568.0473372781065" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/d8d6-audiofreehighqps/BE/CA/GKwRIJENtAdNAAb7YgSKPgCK.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="106.03550295857988"></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"> <img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/bcb8-audiofreehighqps/8D/3B/GAqhVLMNtAdoAAI-WQSKPhIq.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/bcb8-audiofreehighqps/8D/3B/GAqhVLMNtAdoAAI-WQSKPhIq.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/bcb8-audiofreehighqps/8D/3B/GAqhVLMNtAdoAAI-WQSKPhIq.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/bcb8-audiofreehighqps/8D/3B/GAqhVLMNtAdoAAI-WQSKPhIq.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.66666666666666"></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>【收听提示】</b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>01:02</b><b>死亡恐惧：我们到底在怕什么？</b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">05:37多数人怕的不是死亡瞬间，而是死前的痛苦、失去尊严、拖累家人</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">06:32猝死迷思：真的最好吗？</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">08:26死亡的真实样貌：那些没人告诉过你的事</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">10:24死亡是一个过程，不是一瞬间；死亡时间是医生和家属商量什么时候撒手</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">14:58癌症被称为“幸福病”，有时间告别一定更好吗？</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>18:08</b><b>好死是一种特权吗？</b><b>什么</b><b>决定一个人怎么死</b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">21:00安宁病房的现实：中产也担心住不起；谁能真正享受安宁缓和医疗？</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">23:57对善终的怀疑</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">25:20 安宁疗护从业者很反感把尊严死和安乐死混为一谈，为什么？</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">29:10社区安宁疗护的困境：为什么很多地方做不起来？</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">36:58居家安宁疗护的家庭实践</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>4</b><b>2</b><b>:</b><b>17</b><b>当死亡来临时，家庭关系是如何暴露真相的？</b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">42:29三位老人离世，三种不同选择</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">44:37心肺复苏抢救成功率不到10%，且可能造成脑损伤、成为植物人</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">46:28谁有医疗决策权？</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>49:50</b><b>中国式情感表达：</b><b>无声有爱</b><b>，</b><b>说不出“</b><b>爱你、对不起、谢谢你</b><b>”</b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">52:35你怎么活，就怎么死</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">54:22美剧《匹兹堡医护前线》第二季案例：好好告别的正面示范</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">56:10中国老人的两难：想死在家里，但怕影响房价，最后去了医院</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">56:46 性别与照护：为什么总是女性？</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>6</b><b>0</b><b>:</b><b>50</b><b>聊死亡，最难的是跟家人开口</b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">64:24触动时刻：不要美化死亡</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">67:18理性与情感的矛盾：生前预嘱的困惑</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">72:40给死亡焦虑者的建议</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">77:24每个家属都有遗憾，没有例外，放过自己</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">80:25祝愿大家好好生活，享受当下的春天</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>【提及作品】</b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《让死亡回到生命里》雪竹/北京联合出版公司/ 2026-1</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《我是外公外婆带大的孩子》吴为</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">美剧：《匹兹堡医护前线第二季》</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">片头曲：Experience</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">片尾曲：Goldberg Variations, BWV 988 Aria</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><b>【关于近于正常】</b></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">人生无常，何必正常。「近于正常」是一档偏文学向的、泛文化播客。不定期更新，每期一个主题，和你分享近期触动我的文艺切片，可能是好书，好剧电影，艺术展览。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">主播甜菜，视频号【甜菜读书】文学博主。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" 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