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Recent Episodes
May 13, 2026
Managing Through Dry Times: What Angus Whyte Learned From 10 Years of Drought
<h1 data-section-id="kewvkp" data-start="0" data-end="79">Managing Through Dry Times: What Angus Whyte Learned From 10 Years of Drought</h1> <p data-start="81" data-end="376">In this powerful KLR Marketing podcast, <span class="whitespace-normal">Grahame Rees</span> sits down with western NSW producer <span class= "whitespace-normal">Angus Whyte</span> to unpack one of the toughest challenges livestock producers face — managing through prolonged dry times.</p> <p data-start="378" data-end="780">Operating west of Pooncarie near the Darling River, Angus and his family have endured nearly a decade of dry conditions, beginning in 2016 and only receiving a genuine seasonal break in early 2026. Yet throughout that time, Angus continued to make decisions, trade livestock, manage grass carefully, maintain cashflow and protect both his landscape and his family.</p> <h2 data-section-id="10gvfca" data-start="782" data-end="818">The Worst Decision Is No Decision</h2> <p data-start="820" data-end="884">One of the biggest themes throughout the discussion was mindset.</p> <p data-start="886" data-end="1063">Angus explained that during drought, producers often feel powerless against Mother Nature. But he believes making decisions — even imperfect ones — gives you a sense of control.</p> <p data-start="1065" data-end="1091">His philosophy was simple:</p> <ul data-start="1093" data-end="1223"> <li data-section-id="1vsn4ky" data-start="1093" data-end="1136">The best decision is the right decision</li> <li data-section-id="g4kwmu" data-start="1137" data-end="1185">The next best decision is the wrong decision</li> <li data-section-id="wwult3" data-start="1186" data-end="1223">The worst decision is no decision</li> </ul> <p data-start="1225" data-end="1357">Because when no decision is made, producers often drift into blame, frustration and paralysis.</p> <p data-start="1359" data-end="1457">Instead, Angus believes decisions should constantly be reviewed and adjusted as conditions change.</p> <h2 data-section-id="1f9z8uc" data-start="1459" data-end="1517"> Staying Connected to Grass, Livestock, Money and People</h2> <p data-start="1519" data-end="1612">Throughout the conversation, Angus continually returned to the importance of "connectedness."</p> <p data-start="1614" data-end="1656">He challenged producers to ask themselves:</p> <ul data-start="1658" data-end="1941"> <li data-section-id="qk4md4" data-start="1658" data-end="1697">Do you truly understand your grass?</li> <li data-section-id="14qeyvc" data-start="1698" data-end="1760">Do you know the quality, quantity and species composition?</li> <li data-section-id="fetzrh" data-start="1761" data-end="1823">Are your livestock healthy and suited to your environment?</li> <li data-section-id="mmatfj" data-start="1824" data-end="1884">Are you connected with your finances, bank and cashflow?</li> <li data-section-id="19ar1bl" data-start="1885" data-end="1941">Are you staying connected with your family and team?</li> </ul> <p data-start="1943" data-end="2113">For Angus, drought management isn't just about livestock numbers — it's about balancing grass, money, livestock and people together.</p> <h2 data-section-id="ebuapc" data-start="2115" data-end="2153"> Protecting Family and Mental Health</h2> <p data-start="2155" data-end="2227">A standout message from Angus was the danger of "overselling your time."</p> <p data-start="2229" data-end="2543">He spoke openly about producers working around the clock feeding stock while sacrificing family relationships, mental health and quality of life. He warned that surviving drought financially means very little if families are burned out or no longer want to remain on the land.</p> <p data-start="2545" data-end="2584">Instead, Angus encouraged producers to:</p> <ul data-start="2585" data-end="2787"> <li data-section-id="1qle7ia" data-start="2585" data-end="2630"> involve the whole family in decision-making</li> <li data-section-id="1qejsnv" data-start="2631" data-end="2693"> create opportunities for children to understand the business</li> <li data-section-id="ag3c61" data-start="2694" data-end="2730">take breaks away from the property</li> <li data-section-id="6sri25" data-start="2731" data-end="2787"> protect mental clarity so better decisions can be made</li> </ul> <h2 data-section-id="1eg2feg" data-start="2789" data-end="2820"> Drought Is About Flexibility</h2> <p data-start="2822" data-end="2872">Over the past 10 years, Angus and his family have:</p> <ul data-start="2873" data-end="3139"> <li data-section-id="1t7ds25" data-start="2873" data-end="2912"> significantly destocked when required</li> <li data-section-id="7q2oo2" data-start="2913" data-end="2950"> retained only core breeding animals</li> <li data-section-id="1uhtr1" data-start="2951" data-end="2987"> traded livestock opportunistically</li> <li data-section-id="17lsogp" data-start="2988" data-end="3022"> used crop stubbles strategically</li> <li data-section-id="1l68w83" data-start="3023" data-end="3079"> adjusted enterprises based on rainfall and opportunity</li> <li data-section-id="1mc1sxo" data-start="3080" data-end="3139"> focused on maintaining cashflow rather than chasing scale</li> </ul> <p data-start="3141" data-end="3282">Rather than "restocking" after rain, Angus described it as simply "trading stock" based on opportunity.</p> <p data-start="3284" data-end="3365">After receiving significant rainfall in early 2026, the business quickly pivoted:</p> <ul data-start="3366" data-end="3550"> <li data-section-id="12odhkc" data-start="3366" data-end="3404"> agistment cattle arrived within days</li> <li data-section-id="wk13f4" data-start="3405" data-end="3446"> trading lambs and cattle were purchased</li> <li data-section-id="10e7fza" data-start="3447" data-end="3487"> rotational grazing resumed immediately</li> <li data-section-id="1t20kmm" data-start="3488" data-end="3550"> grazing pressure was carefully managed to stimulate recovery</li> </ul> <p data-start="3552" data-end="3699">It highlighted the flexibility that comes from remaining mentally prepared and financially positioned to act.</p> <h2 data-section-id="1rc524l" data-start="3701" data-end="3745"> Don't Let Outside Noise Run Your Business</h2> <p data-start="3747" data-end="3815">Another key lesson was learning to disconnect from outside opinions.</p> <p data-start="3817" data-end="4107">Angus spoke about how community pressure and pub conversations can easily creep into producers' thinking during drought. Comments about destocking, restocking or "what everyone else is doing" often influence decision-making more than producers realise.</p> <p data-start="4109" data-end="4135">Instead, Angus reinforced:</p> <blockquote data-start="4136" data-end="4255"> <p data-start="4138" data-end="4255">"You've got to make good decisions for your business, your family, your livestock and your land — not anyone else's."</p> </blockquote> <h2 data-section-id="10uy43r" data-start="4257" data-end="4281">The Power of Networks</h2> <p data-start="4283" data-end="4377">Both Angus and Grahame highlighted the importance of strong networks during difficult seasons.</p> <p data-start="4379" data-end="4395">Whether through:</p> <ul data-start="4396" data-end="4538"> <li data-section-id="1xbwuhl" data-start="4396" data-end="4411">KLR Marketing</li> <li data-section-id="1veadds" data-start="4412" data-end="4447"> Resource Consulting Service (RCS)</li> <li data-section-id="nm9irp" data-start="4448" data-end="4472"> industry relationships</li> <li data-section-id="ekcl9" data-start="4473" data-end="4492"> leadership groups</li> <li data-section-id="o401v6" data-start="4493" data-end="4513"> online communities</li> <li data-section-id="1c5za4t" data-start="4514" data-end="4538"> agistment partnerships</li> </ul> <p data-start="4540" data-end="4679">Having people to discuss ideas with helps remove isolation and improves decision-making confidence.</p> <h2 data-section-id="80n66e" data-start="4681" data-end="4721">A Practical Example of KLR Principles</h2> <p data-start="4723" data-end="4803">This conversation perfectly demonstrated the KLR Marketing principles in action:</p> <ul data-start="4804" data-end="5022"> <li data-section-id="1mbyyji" data-start="4804" data-end="4842"> balancing Grass, Money and Livestock</li> <li data-section-id="vorvee" data-start="4843" data-end="4878"> understanding price relationships</li> <li data-section-id="1njmg7g" data-start="4879" data-end="4902"> knowing cost of carry</li> <li data-section-id="1iaa40j" data-start="4903" data-end="4930"> identifying opportunities</li> <li data-section-id="5gln6r" data-start="4931" data-end="4959"> making objective decisions</li> <li data-section-id="40kb1d" data-start="4960" data-end="4980"> remaining flexible</li> <li data-section-id="1r1yeqf" data-start="4981" data-end="5022"> understanding yourself and your mindset</li> </ul> <p data-start="5024" data-end="5186">Rather than trying to predict the future, Angus focused on working with what was in front of him — one decision at a time.</p> <h2 data-section-id="114wazr" data-start="5188" data-end="5205"> Final Thoughts</h2> <p data-start="5207" data-end="5248">Managing through dry times is never easy.</p> <p data-start="5250" data-end="5374">But this discussion with Angus Whyte shows that drought management is about far more than feeding stock or waiting for rain.</p> <p data-start="5376" data-end="5387">It's about:</p> <ul data-start="5388" data-end="5474"> <li data-section-id="fav01w" data-start="5388" data-end="5397"> mindset</li> <li data-section-id="syu7wo" data-start="5398" data-end="5413"> communication</li> <li data-section-id="1uu6pw5" data-start="5414" data-end="5427"> flexibility</li> <li data-section-id="2i6ktt" data-start="5428" data-end="5440"> leadership</li> <li data-section-id="l6u1i4" data-start="5441" data-end="5456"> connectedness</li> <li data-section-id="1831t0y" data-start="5457" data-end="5474"> decision-making</li> </ul> <p data-start="5476" data-end="5572">And perhaps most importantly:<br /> continuing to make decisions — even when conditions are uncertain.</p>
January 30, 2026
Curiosity, Contradictions & Robust Farm Businesses - with John King
<p data-start="215" data-end="447"><strong data-start="215" data-end="269">Curiosity, Contradictions & Robust Farm Businesses</strong><br data-start="269" data-end="272" /> A conversation with <strong data-start="294" data-end="335"><span class= "whitespace-normal">John King</span></strong> (New Zealand) hosted by <strong data-start="364" data-end= "405"><span class="whitespace-normal">Grahame Rees</span></strong> (<span class= "whitespace-normal">KLR Marketing</span>)</p> <h3 data-start="449" data-end="470">Episode Summary</h3> <p data-start="471" data-end="596">What actually makes a farm business <strong data-start="507" data-end="517">robust</strong> — not just productive, but resilient across seasons, markets, and generations?</p> <p data-start="598" data-end="1029">In this wide-ranging webinar conversation, New Zealand educator and author <strong data-start= "673" data-end="686">John King</strong> joins Grahame Rees to share insights from over <strong data-start="734" data-end="764">100 real farm case studies</strong> featured in his Curiosity books. Drawing on decades of experience across sheep, beef, and dairy systems, John explores why many farming "truths" don't hold up under close observation — and how curiosity, not compliance, is often the real driver of profitability.</p> <p data-start="1031" data-end="1298">From debt reduction and grazing simplicity to genetics, marketing, leverage, and low-input systems, this episode challenges conventional thinking and highlights what innovative producers are doing differently to create freedom, flexibility, and long-term viability.</p> <hr data-start="1300" data-end="1303" /> <h3 data-start="1305" data-end="1334">🔑 Key Themes & Takeaways</h3> <ul data-start="1336" data-end="2411"> <li data-start="1336" data-end="1463"> <p data-start="1338" data-end="1463"><strong data-start="1338" data-end="1368">Curiosity beats compliance</strong> – the most successful farmers ask better questions rather than follow industry rules blindly</p> </li> <li data-start="1464" data-end="1566"> <p data-start="1466" data-end="1566"><strong data-start="1466" data-end="1498">Robustness over maximisation</strong> – why resilient systems outperform high-input, high-stress models</p> </li> <li data-start="1567" data-end="1693"> <p data-start="1569" data-end="1693"><strong data-start="1569" data-end="1610">Contradictions & paradoxes in farming</strong> – slower growth, less fertiliser, or fewer cows can sometimes mean more profit</p> </li> <li data-start="1694" data-end="1781"> <p data-start="1696" data-end="1781"><strong data-start="1696" data-end="1725">Debt as a strategic lever</strong> – reducing debt increases flexibility and optionality</p> </li> <li data-start="1782" data-end="1882"> <p data-start="1784" data-end="1882"><strong data-start="1784" data-end="1813">Low-input success stories</strong> – farms thriving without fertiliser, chemicals, or complex systems</p> </li> <li data-start="1883" data-end="1998"> <p data-start="1885" data-end="1998"><strong data-start="1885" data-end="1916">Genetics & behaviour matter</strong> – selecting animals for structure, temperament, and longevity, not just numbers</p> </li> <li data-start="1999" data-end="2106"> <p data-start="2001" data-end="2106"><strong data-start="2001" data-end="2035">Marketing beyond the farm gate</strong> – why some producers are capturing more value by selling differently</p> </li> <li data-start="2107" data-end="2200"> <p data-start="2109" data-end="2200"><strong data-start="2109" data-end="2139">Technology vs fundamentals</strong> – when tools help… and when they distract from observation</p> </li> <li data-start="2201" data-end="2298"> <p data-start="2203" data-end="2298"><strong data-start="2203" data-end="2235">Land use pressure & forestry</strong> – the unintended consequences of policy on rural communities</p> </li> <li data-start="2299" data-end="2411"> <p data-start="2301" data-end="2411"><strong data-start="2301" data-end="2319">A simple truth</strong> – many animal health problems disappear when grass inventory and nutrition are managed well</p> </li> </ul> <hr data-start="2413" data-end="2416" /> <h3 data-start="2418" data-end="2439">🧠 Notable Quotes</h3> <blockquote data-start="2441" data-end="2530"> <p data-start="2443" data-end="2530">"Most problems in farming don't originate at ground level — they're six foot above it."</p> </blockquote> <blockquote data-start="2532" data-end="2609"> <p data-start="2534" data-end="2609">"If you focus too hard on production, reproduction usually goes backwards."</p> </blockquote> <blockquote data-start="2611" data-end="2698"> <p data-start="2613" data-end="2698">"There aren't many investments that beat reducing debt — it creates real robustness."</p> </blockquote> <blockquote data-start="2700" data-end="2793"> <p data-start="2702" data-end="2793">"If you get the fundamentals right, you don't need half the technology people are selling."</p> </blockquote> <hr data-start="2795" data-end="2798" /> <h3 data-start="2800" data-end="2827">📚 Referenced Resources</h3> <ul data-start="2828" data-end="3057"> <li data-start="2828" data-end="2887"> <p data-start="2830" data-end="2887">Curiosity: Farmers Discovering What Works – John King</p> </li> <li data-start="2888" data-end="2940"> <p data-start="2890" data-end="2940">Curiosity: Farmers Finding Freedom – John King</p> </li> <li data-start="2941" data-end="2999"> <p data-start="2943" data-end="2999">Holistic Management & observational grazing principles</p> </li> <li data-start="3000" data-end="3057"> <p data-start="3002" data-end="3057">Case studies across NZ sheep, beef, and dairy systems</p> </li> </ul> <hr data-start="3059" data-end="3062" /> <h3 data-start="3064" data-end="3094">🎧 Who This Episode Is For</h3> <ul data-start="3095" data-end="3332"> <li data-start="3095" data-end="3123"> <p data-start="3097" data-end="3123">Sheep & cattle producers</p> </li> <li data-start="3124" data-end="3172"> <p data-start="3126" data-end="3172">Dairy farmers questioning high-input systems</p> </li> <li data-start="3173" data-end="3216"> <p data-start="3175" data-end="3216">Regenerative and holistic practitioners</p> </li> <li data-start="3217" data-end="3263"> <p data-start="3219" data-end="3263">Farming families thinking about succession</p> </li> <li data-start="3264" data-end="3332"> <p data-start="3266" data-end="3332">Anyone wanting <strong data-start="3281" data-end="3332">less stress, more clarity, and better decisions</strong></p> </li> </ul> <hr data-start="3334" data-end="3337" /> <h3 data-start="3339" data-end="3356">👉 Next Steps</h3> <p data-start="3357" data-end="3539">If this conversation resonated, explore how <strong data-start="3401" data-end= "3429">KLR Marketing principles</strong> help producers apply clarity around <strong data-start="3466" data-end="3497">grass, money, and livestock</strong> — and turn insight into confident action</p>
January 11, 2026
Nourishment: How Animals, People & Landscapes Learn — with Dr Fred Provenza
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From in-utero learning to regenerative decision-making, this episode challenges us to rethink how we manage land, livestock, and ourselves.</p> <hr data-start="873" data-end="876" /> <h3 data-start="878" data-end="909">🌱 What This Episode Covers</h3> <p data-start="911" data-end="1110">In this wide-ranging and deeply thoughtful discussion, Fred Provenza joins the KLR team to explore how <strong data-start="1014" data-end="1066">biology, behaviour, belief systems, and learning</strong> are inseparable — in animals and in people.</p> <p data-start="1112" data-end="1130">You'll hear about:</p> <ul data-start="1132" data-end="1938"> <li data-start="1132" data-end="1254"> <p data-start="1134" data-end="1254">How animals develop the ability to digest and utilise poor-quality feed through <strong data-start="1214" data-end="1252">experience and early-life exposure</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="1255" data-end="1363"> <p data-start="1257" data-end="1363">The role of <strong data-start="1269" data-end="1284">epigenetics</strong> — how genes are expressed in response to social and environmental conditions</p> </li> <li data-start="1364" data-end="1491"> <p data-start="1366" data-end="1491">Research showing animals exposed to certain plants in utero later <strong data-start="1432" data-end="1481">choose those plants and adapt physiologically</strong> to them</p> </li> <li data-start="1492" data-end="1590"> <p data-start="1494" data-end="1590">Why animals — and people — resist change, even when current systems are no longer serving them</p> </li> <li data-start="1591" data-end="1682"> <p data-start="1593" data-end="1682">What morning sickness may tell us about evolutionary protection of the developing fetus</p> </li> <li data-start="1683" data-end="1765"> <p data-start="1685" data-end="1765">Why transformation usually comes through <strong data-start="1726" data-end="1763">trial, discomfort, and disruption</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="1766" data-end="1848"> <p data-start="1768" data-end="1848">How regenerative change must start with mindset, not just management practices</p> </li> <li data-start="1849" data-end="1938"> <p data-start="1851" data-end="1938">The influence of Bud Williams and the power of learning to truly <strong data-start="1916" data-end="1938">think for yourself</strong></p> </li> </ul> <hr data-start="1940" data-end="1943" /> <h3 data-start="1945" data-end="1989">🧠 Key Takeaways for Livestock Producers</h3> <ul data-start="1991" data-end="2476"> <li data-start="1991" data-end="2100"> <p data-start="1993" data-end="2100">Animals are not passive — they <strong data-start="2024" data-end="2078">learn what to eat, where to go, and how to survive</strong> through experience.</p> </li> <li data-start="2101" data-end="2189"> <p data-start="2103" data-end="2189">Early nutrition and exposure shape lifetime performance, preference, and resilience.</p> </li> <li data-start="2190" data-end="2292"> <p data-start="2192" data-end="2292">Behaviour and biology are shaped by environment — <strong data-start="2242" data-end= "2289">management matters more than genetics alone</strong>.</p> </li> <li data-start="2293" data-end="2380"> <p data-start="2295" data-end="2380">Change is hard because beliefs are hard to shift — both in livestock and in people.</p> </li> <li data-start="2381" data-end="2476"> <p data-start="2383" data-end="2476">Regeneration isn't just about what you do with the land… it's about how you <strong data-start= "2459" data-end="2466">see</strong> the land.</p> </li> </ul> <p data-start="2478" data-end="2531">As one Mexican regenerative farmer famously put it:</p> <blockquote data-start="2532" data-end="2617"> <p data-start="2534" data-end="2617"><strong>"If you want to change the land, the change has to happen between your ears first."</strong></p> </blockquote> <hr data-start="2619" data-end="2622" /> <h3 data-start="2624" data-end="2665">📖 About the Guest — Dr Fred Provenza</h3> <p data-start="2667" data-end="2926">Dr Fred Provenza is Professor Emeritus at Utah State University and author of the book <strong data-start="2754" data-end="2841">Nourishment: What Animals Can Teach Us About Rediscovering Our Nutritional Wisdom</strong>.<br data-start= "2842" data-end="2845" /> His work has transformed how scientists, producers, and land managers understand:</p> <ul data-start="2928" data-end="3066"> <li data-start="2928" data-end="2967"> <p data-start="2930" data-end="2967">Animal behaviour and diet selection</p> </li> <li data-start="2968" data-end="2993"> <p data-start="2970" data-end="2993">Learning in livestock</p> </li> <li data-start="2994" data-end="3024"> <p data-start="2996" data-end="3024">Plant–animal relationships</p> </li> <li data-start="3025" data-end="3066"> <p data-start="3027" data-end="3066">Ecological and human health connections</p> </li> </ul> <p data-start="3068" data-end="3259">Fred's research and philosophy have influenced 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