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May 29, 2026
对谈20 | 一个暴论者眼中的世界——北京车展再论蔚小理（下）
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">和上一期嘉宾，63和40两位机构媒体出身的汽车媒体人不同，臭名昭著的Blood旌旗，或者说人们口中的“艹老师”，是另外一种汽车行业的表达者。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">我们因为一起体验小鹏GX上的VLA2.0智驾，在北京车展后见面，展开了一场非常酣畅淋漓的谈话。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">一半是分歧，我认为他的表达言必称国家输赢，大量不经审视地使用军事词汇用于描述商业竞争，还有忽视周期和波动，过分强调终局。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">一半是共识，就是在全球化和工业化的竞争中，中国产业是一定会取得胜利的。无论是大模型还是物理世界AI。而且像蔚小理这样的创新者，有很重要的一席之地。因为他们相比于自己的前辈们，更有技术品味，更不甘于商业模式上的偏安，更坚决进入软硬合一的新时代。</p>
May 15, 2026
Vol.61 | 北京车展再论蔚小理（上）：智能化再突围
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>车展前一天，为了迎合目前“去登味儿”的汽车行业主题。我和两位非常年轻的汽车媒体人（均为95后），</span>类星频道的63和一见Auto的易思琳谈了谈这个时间段的蔚小理。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>我个人非常相信华为和小米在用户画像越来越清晰之后，市场上会产生一个非常明显的流量转移。相比揣在兜里的手机而言，大家更愿意展现自己的汽车上的独特品味。</span><br><br><span>但是在节目中，我们还是从目前蔚来取得的一些成绩，谈到了理想和小鹏面临的困难。2026年，除了依靠外部的AI浪潮和内部“软硬合一”的技术路线重新擦亮智能化招牌之外，他们也没有第二条路。</span><br><br><span>63和我3月份进行了从喀什到上海的5200公里智驾，体验小鹏的VLA2.0新版智驾，看到了用AI打破所谓“第一梯队”僵局是可能的。接下来，在统一车机和智驾，让Agent上车这件事情上，小鹏和理想都已经完成团队整合了，今年一定要出结果。</span><br><br><span>节目的最后，我们谈到了务虚的部分。追觅的CEO俞浩在网上突然开始发疯是一个背景，我们不妨思考一下：五年之后如果是更年轻的一代硬件企业家，刘靖康和汪滔们要造车。有没有可能，是比雷军和余承东这样的“老登”造车更可怕的事情。 </span><br></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">节目中提到到一些企业内部人员：</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">谢炎 理想CTO</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">刘先明 小鹏智驾一号位 通用智能中心负责人</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">“婷婷”~ 袁婷婷 小鹏汽车自动驾驶产品高级总监</p>
April 20, 2026
Solo | 一代人中最聪明的头脑，不要浪费在赌中国输
<p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">过去两年抗拒做播客，只因为我自己对中国很乐观，但是很多朋友不是。</p>
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