LawNext is a weekly podcast hosted by Bob Ambrogi, who is internationally known for his writing and speaking on legal technology and innovation. Each week, Bob interviews the innovators and entrepreneurs who are driving what's next in the legal industry. From legal technology startups to new law firm business models to enhancing access to justice, Bob and his guests explore the future of law and legal practice.

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LawNext is a weekly podcast hosted by Bob Ambrogi, who is internationally known for his writing and speaking on legal technology and innovation. Each week, Bob interviews the innovators and entrepreneurs who are driving what's next in the legal industry. From legal technology startups to new law firm business models to enhancing access to justice, Bob and his guests explore the future of law and legal practice.
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July 27, 2026
From Product to Practice: Why Casetext's Former CTO Has Started An AI Native Law Firm
<p dir="ltr">As chief technology officer at Casetext, <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanwalkerdata/">Ryan Walker</a> helped build CoCounsel, one of the first and most consequential generative AI legal assistants — a product so significant it led to the company's <a href= "https://www.lawnext.com/2023/06/the-rumors-were-true-thomson-reuters-acquires-casetext-for-650m-cash.html"> $650 million acquisition by Thomson Reuters</a>. But Walker came away unsatisfied. Although the legal tech tools kept getting better, he believed, clients were seeing no benefit. Billing rates kept climbing and the efficiency gains never reached them.</p> <p dir="ltr">That spurred him to pivot from building products to forming a practice — <a href="https://general.legal/">General Legal</a>, an AI-native law firm he cofounded and leads as CEO, built on the premise that the fastest path to transforming legal services is not retrofitting AI onto traditional firms, but rebuilding the law firm from the ground up on an AI-forward foundation. Just six months out of Y Combinator, the firm has some 400 clients, a newly launched venture financing practice, and, in what may be a first for a law firm, an MCP server that lets clients' AI agents engage the firm directly.</p> <p dir="ltr">In this episode of LawNext, Walker — not a lawyer but a PhD mathematician — tells host Bob Ambrogi why he believes AI can now automate 95% of routine legal work, how the management services organization structure allows an investable technology company to operate alongside a law firm, and why an AI-native firm paradoxically depends on hiring highly experienced lawyers rather than supercharging junior ones. He also explains the "second brain" approach that lets the firm's work product reflect each client's strategy, what earlier failed innovators like Atrium and Clearspire got wrong, and why he thinks the real reckoning will come when major clients simply refuse to pay for work AI can do.</p> <p dir="ltr">Walker cofounded the firm along with two other Casetext colleagues, <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/javed-qadrud-din/">Javed Qadrud-Din</a>, who was head of AI at Casetext and is now General Legal's chief technology officer, and <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/jp-mohler/">J.P. Mohler</a>, who was an LLM engineer at Casetext and is now chief product officer and managing partner. Their ultimate ambition, Walker says, is to make General Legal the biggest provider of legal services in the world and, along the way, to break the scarcity model that keeps legal help out of reach for the people and companies who need it.</p> <p dir="ltr"> </p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Thank You To Our Sponsors</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out.</p> <ul> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <p dir="ltr" role="presentation"><a href= "https://joinparadigm.com/">Paradigm</a>, home to the practice management platforms <a href= "https://www.practicepanther.com/">PracticePanther</a>, <a href= "https://www.bill4time.com/">Bill4Time</a>, <a href= "https://meruscase.com/">MerusCase</a> and <a href= "https://www.lollylaw.com/">LollyLaw</a>; the e-payments platform <a href="https://headnote.com/">Headnote</a>; and the legal accounting software <a href= "https://trustbooks.com/">TrustBooks</a>.</p> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <p dir="ltr" role="presentation"><a href= "https://rebrand.ly/briefpoint-lawnext-podcast">Briefpoint</a>, eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner).</p> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <p dir="ltr" role="presentation"><a href= "https://rebrand.ly/CosmoLex-LNP">CosmoLex</a>, helping law firms manage their entire practice in one platform, from intake to payment. Try it free.</p> </li> <li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"> <p dir="ltr" role="presentation"><a href= "https://rebrand.ly/AJAX-LNP">Ajax</a>, the AI timekeeper lawyers want to use.</p> </li> </ul> <p><strong> </strong></p> <p dir="ltr">If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.</p> <p> </p>

July 20, 2026
Law Democratized: Renee Knake Jefferson on Her Blueprint for Solving the Justice Crisis
LawNext host Bob Ambrogi interviews Renee Knake Jefferson, professor of law, about her blueprint for solving the justice crisis and closing the access to justice gap.

July 6, 2026
Inside Claude for Legal: Anthropic's Mark Pike on AI's Next Frontier in Law
Host Bob Ambrogi interviews Mark Pike, Associate General Counsel at Anthropic, about Claude for Legal's impact on the legal industry and its future.
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