by Grace Ji-Sun Kim
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May 22, 2026
<p>Welcome to Madang.</p><p>Madang is the outdoor living room of the world. Here, we invite you to sit and tune into unreserved, remarkable conversations with renowned authors, leaders, public figures, and scholars on religion, culture, and everything in between.<br>This is the 59th featuring Dr. James F. McGrath. He is the Clarence L. Goodwin Chair of New Testament Language and Literature at Butler University in Indianapolis. His blog, Religion Prof, can be found on the Patheos network. His books include The A to Z of the New Testament, Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist, Theology and Science Fiction, and What Jesus Learned from Women. His newest book is <a href="https://amzn.to/3RgQbRN" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">Beyond Deconstruction: Building a More Expansive Faith.</a><br>On this episode of the Madang Podcast hosted by <a href="https://baptistnews.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Baptist News Globa</strong></a>l, McGrath and I discuss his new book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3RgQbRN" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">Beyond Deconstruction: Building a More Expansive Faith</a>. We discuss faith, deconstruction, God, Job, suffering, community, and so much more. </p><p>Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6kydZMo5IjmtRFJ9niYnDZ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Madang Podcast on Spotify,</strong></a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/madang/id1556774235" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Apple</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a href="https://www.facebook.com/gracejisunkim/reels/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Facebook Reels</strong></a><strong>, </strong>or wherever podcasts are streamed.<br><strong>I am grateful to the many sponsors of this Madang Podcast episode.</strong><br>1. Eerdmans<br>Madang podcast hosted by the Baptist News Global is grateful to Eerdmans for sponsoring this episode. Please order your copy of <a href="https://amzn.to/3RgQbRN" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">Beyond Deconstruction</a>, James F. McGrath. It will take you on a journey of faith that will strengthen you and carry you forward. Check out all the important books from Eerdmans by visiting <a href="https://www.eerdmans.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">www.eerdmans.com</a><br>2. Upper Room<br>What would it look like to live with compassion at the center of your life—toward yourself, your neighbors… even those you might call enemies? In <a href="https://store.upperroom.org/Madang" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">Compassion in Practice: The Way of Jesus,</a> renowned teacher Frank Rogers introduces a path of radical compassion rooted in God’s expansive love for all people—a path that can soften hardened hearts and bring healing, even in the most difficult situations. Along with powerful real-life stories of restorative love in action, this book lays out a series of practices to help you cultivate compassion—for yourself and for others—and to respond to a hurting world with courage, wisdom, and grace. This newly revised edition includes specific practices for compassionate social activism, more interfaith conversation, and a "compassion compass" to help orient you as you travel the path of healing and restoration. Prepare to step heart-first into a challenging world, ready to engage in a new way that beats with the pulse of compassion. Save 20% on Compassion in Practice today—and receive 20% off when you use promo code MADANG at <a href="https://store.upperroom.org/Madang" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">Store.UpperRoom.org/MADANG</a>.<br></p><p><br></p>
April 28, 2026
<p><strong>Welcome to Madang.</strong></p><p>Madang is the outdoor living room of the world. Here, we invite you to sit and tune into unreserved, remarkable conversations with renowned authors, leaders, public figures, and scholars on religion, culture, and everything in between.</p><p>This is the 59th episode of Madang Podcast featuring Kelley Nikondeha. Kelly<strong> </strong>is a writer, speaker, liberation theologian, and community development practitioner. Together with her husband, Claude Nikondeha, they founded Communities of Hope (an NGO in Burundi), Kazoza Bank, and have an ongoing partnership with the United Nations Capital Development Fund around economic development. She is the author of Jubilee Economics.</p><p>On this episode of Madang Podcast, Nikondeha and I talk about her new book, <a href="https://amzn.to/4vUSolK" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">Jubilee Economics</a>, debt, lament, hope, Jubilee, and so much more.</p><p><strong>I am so grateful to these wonderful sponsors of Madang Podcast hosted by </strong><a href="https://baptistnews.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><strong>Baptist News Global</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>1. Orbis Books-</strong>Madang is grateful to Orbis Books for sponsoring this episode of Madang Podcast hosted by BNG. Please order your copy of Jubilee Economics from Orbis Books. Use the discount code “MAD” for 30% off.</p><p>Please visit <a href="http://www.orbisbooks.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">www.orbisbooks.com</a> to order and check out the other wonderful books from Orbis. They publish “A World of Books that Matter”.</p><p><strong>2. Upper Room </strong><a href="https://store.upperroom.org/madang" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">AS YOURSELF: The Sacred Work of Embodying Grace</a>, By Caroline Vogel</p><p>What does it really mean to love your neighbor as yourself? For many of us, loving God and loving others feels natural. But loving ourselves? That’s the hard part. In her new book, As Yourself: The Sacred Work of Embodying Grace, spiritual director and therapist Caroline Vogel invites you into a different way of living—one rooted not in striving, but in receiving. Through honest storytelling, biblical insights, and gentle spiritual practices, Vogel helps you release perfectionism, quiet shame, and open yourself to the truth that God’s grace is already alive within you. What if you didn’t have to earn God’s love? What if you could simply receive it—and live from it? As Yourself is an invitation to slow down, reconnect with the Spirit, and discover what it means to live as God’s beloved—fully, freely, and just as you are. Available now - Save 20% on As Yourself at The Upper Room! Visit <a href="https://store.upperroom.org/madang" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">store.upperroom.org/Madang</a> - and use promo code MADANG at checkout.</p>
April 1, 2026
<p>Welcome to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6kydZMo5IjmtRFJ9niYnDZ" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Madang</a>.</p><p>Madang is the outdoor living room of the world. Here, we invite you to sit and tune into unreserved, remarkable conversations with renowned authors, leaders, public figures, and scholars on religion, culture, and everything in between.</p><p>This is the 58th featuring Dr. Kristin T. Lee, who is a writer whose work has appeared in Christianity Today and Sojourners, and a primary care physician serving Boston’s Chinatown community. She writes about faith, culture, books, and solidarity at The Embers and is a contributing columnist to The Covenant Companion. Her passion is highlighting literature written by Asian and BIPOC authors via book reviews and reading groups on Instagram (<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fktlee.writes&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd6dce77a72c04484457608de69a4e9d9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C639064354287446888%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=J3UEfsgqTNoV7aJNKm7AqVptXwxqmmFAc%2FO4LWY5R2M%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">@ktlee.writes</a>). Lee’s work is informed by her experiences as an adoptive mother, host to refugees, and friend to those affected by incarceration. <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.broadleafbooks.com%2Fstore%2Fproduct%2F9798889835028%2FWe-Mend-with-Gold&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd6dce77a72c04484457608de69a4e9d9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C639064354287515833%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2jt1y559fi9ozmtkflX%2FseYWaWApN5GSjONbCxJ0Xuc%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">We Mend with Gold</a> is her debut book.</p><p>On this episode of Madang Podcast, Lee and I talk about her new book, <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.broadleafbooks.com%2Fstore%2Fproduct%2F9798889835028%2FWe-Mend-with-Gold&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd6dce77a72c04484457608de69a4e9d9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C639064354287515833%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2jt1y559fi9ozmtkflX%2FseYWaWApN5GSjONbCxJ0Xuc%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">We Mend with Gold</a>. We discuss brokenness, immigrant churches, God is not White, Theology of God’s Family, and so much more.</p><p>Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6kydZMo5IjmtRFJ9niYnDZ" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Madang Podcast on Spotify,</strong></a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/madang/id1556774235" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Apple</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a href="https://www.facebook.com/gracejisunkim/reels/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Facebook Reels</strong></a><strong> </strong>or wherever podcasts are streamed.</p><p><strong>I am grateful to the many sponsors of this Madang Podcast episode.</strong></p><p><strong>1. </strong><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/search?ss=we+mend+with+gold" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Broadleaf Books</strong></a><strong>-</strong>Madang is grateful to Broadleaf Books for sponsoring this episode of Madang Podcast. Please order your copy of <a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/search?ss=we+mend+with+gold" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">We Mend with Gold</a> by Kristen T. Lee. It is a wonderful book that will inform and inspire you. Check out all the important books from Broadleaf books by visiting www.broadleafbooks.com</p><p><strong>2. Upper Room-</strong><a href="https://store.upperroom.org/madang" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>AS YOURSELF: The Sacred Work of Embodying Grace</strong></a>, By Caroline Vogel</p><p>What does it really mean to love your neighbor as yourself? For many of us, loving God and loving others feels natural. But loving ourselves? That’s the hard part. In her new book, <a href="https://store.upperroom.org/madang" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">As Yourself: The Sacred Work of Embodying Grace</a>, spiritual director and therapist Caroline Vogel invites you into a different way of living—one rooted not in striving, but in receiving. Through honest storytelling, biblical insights, and gentle spiritual practices, Vogel helps you release perfectionism, quiet shame, and open yourself to the truth that God’s grace is already alive within you. What if you didn’t have to earn God’s love? What if you could simply receive it—and live from it? As Yourself is an invitation to slow down, reconnect with the Spirit, and discover what it means to live as God’s beloved—fully, freely, and just as you are. Available now - Save 20% on <a href="https://store.upperroom.org/madang" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">As Yourself </a>at The Upper Room! Visit <a href="https://store.upperroom.org/madang" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">store.upperroom.org/Madang</a> - and use <strong>promo code MADANG </strong>at checkout.</p><p>3. <a href="https://www.cbts.edu/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Central Seminary</strong></a>-This episode is presented by<a href="https://www.cbts.edu/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> Central Seminary</a> – a historic, accredited, diverse, cross-cultural, and ecumenical seminary. Central Seminary equips students with the theological knowledge, spiritual insight, and practical skills needed to lead in an ever-changing world. Central offers numerous graduate degrees and certificates, including our Certificate in Peace and Justice Ministry, which is facilitated in live, online classrooms. The Certificate in Peace and Justice Ministry will prepare you to lead and serve through social change in areas such as racial injustice, economic injustice, the climate crisis, war and violence, and more. To learn more, visit <a href="https://www.cbts.edu/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">www.CBTS.edu</a> or search for <a href="https://www.cbts.edu/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Central Seminary Kansas City</a>.</p><p><strong>I am grateful to the many sponsors of this Madang Podcast episode.</strong></p>
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