Nap Trapped, hosted by expert sleep consultants Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre), transforms baby sleep challenges into practical solutions. Whether you're currently trapped under a napping baby or seeking better sleep, each episode combines evidence-based advice with real parenting experience. No judgment, just expert insights with a side of solidarity - because understanding the 'why' behind sleep behaviors is the key to confident parenting. We're here to help sleep make sense from nap transitions to early rising.
Sleep Detectives: Teething, Daycare Naps and Cot Climbers
Happy Sleep Detectives Day to all who celebrate! We open the Nap Trapped question box and answer your real-life baby sleep questions, from mum versus dad at bedtime to a 23 month old who's started climbing out of the cot. And a mum from our Spotify comments wrote back to tell us her twelve month old has slept through the night two nights straight, one and a half weeks into night weaning and modified Ferber. Case solved. Case closed.
Subscribe and catch every episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com
What You'll Learn:
- Why babies settle differently for mum and dad and how to get both of you confidently resettling
- How to avoid feeding to resettle when it isn't feed time
- When we start waking babies from naps and why a consistent 7am start matters so much
- Why we move a one year old off wake windows and onto a clock-based schedule
- How to handle daycare naps and extra night wakes in those first few weeks
- How much teething really disrupts sleep and how to tell teething from habit or regression
- How long to stay on the transitional schedule and why early rising is rarely a sign to drop a nap
- How to hold onto three naps at seven months and whether settling time gets added onto a capped nap
- What to try before you move a cot climber into a big bed
Chapters:
00:00 Case solved, case closed
03:10 Mum, dad and resettling
11:46 Waking babies and clock schedules
23:29 Daycare naps and teething
35:48 Holding steady on naps
46:08 The lucky last cot climber
ABOUT
Nap Trapped is the baby sleep podcast hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre). We're two sleep consultants who work with real families every day, giving you evidence-based advice in plain language. On Sleep Detectives we answer your questions and solve your sleep crimes, one case at a time. Hold steady.
Links:
Sally Woods, The Sleep Concierge, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/
Bec Maher, The Sleep Centre, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/
Nap Trapped: www.naptrappedpodcast.com
30 Sept 2026
Evidence-based Baby Sleep With That Sleep Doc (Part 2)
Welcome back to part two of our 100th episode with That Sleep Doc, Dr Sujay Kansagra. He's a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University and the inventor of the Lullabee smart crib mattress. This half is where Bec finally gets to ask about a real bugbear of hers, low sleep needs, and Sally asks Sujay to diagnose her. We get into what actually decides how much sleep our babies need, why six hours of naps won't give you a twelve hour night, whether overtiredness is really a thing and how Sujay copes with the trolls in his comment section. Then it's a very slow fast five, the Lullabee versus the Snoo and the biscuit question we promised you.
Missed part one? Listen here: https://www.naptrappedpodcast.com/p/ep-100-what-is-sleep-training-that-sleep-doc
Subscribe and catch every episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
- Why genetics set our sleep needs and how rare truly low sleep needs are
- Why a low sleep needs label doesn't mean you can't improve sleep
- How stacking too much day sleep can look like low sleep needs
- What the science does and doesn't say about overtiredness
- Why toddlers get wired, not sleepy, when they're short on sleep
- Sujay's take on Wonder Weeks, swaddling, melatonin gummies and sleep consultants
- How the Lullabee weans itself out and why it's the polar opposite of the Snoo
CHAPTERS
00:00 Welcome back, Nap Trappers
00:20 Bec's bugbear: low sleep needs
11:16 Is overtiredness real?
21:06 Trolls and the comment section
28:57 A very slow fast five
36:18 We're a good team
ABOUT NAP TRAPPED
We're Sally Woods from The Sleep Concierge and Bec Maher from The Sleep Centre. Nap Trapped is our baby sleep podcast for tired, time-poor parents who want evidence-based answers in plain language, with realistic expectations and no empty promises.
ABOUT DR SUJAY KANSAGRA
Sujay is a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University, aka That Sleep Doc, and the inventor of the Lullabee smart crib mattress.
LINKS
Sally (The Sleep Concierge) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/
Bec (The Sleep Centre) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/
Part one: https://www.naptrappedpodcast.com/p/ep-100-what-is-sleep-training-that-sleep-doc
Dr Sujay Kansagra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatsleepdoc/
Dr Sujay Kansagra on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatsleepdoc
Dr Sujay Kansagra website: https://linktr.ee/thatsleepdoc
Dr Sujay Kansagra on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thatsleepdoc
23 Sept 2026
What Is Sleep Training, Really? With That Sleep Doc (Part 1)
We made it to 100 episodes and we couldn't think of a better way to celebrate. Sally's heart was beating the whole time 'cause she's that much of a fangirl.
Our guest is the one and only Dr Sujay Kansagra, known to so many of you as That Sleep Doc. He's a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University, where he directs the child neurology sleep medicine program. Sally DM'd him on the seventh of December 2024, before Nap Trapped even existed. It was left on unread. A hundred episodes later, here we are.
In part one we rip the band aid and ask what sleep training actually is, whether sleep associations are real and how you tell a sleep association from a baby seeking connection. Sujay walks us through the learned helplessness research, attachment, night feeds and breastfeeding, parent guilt and why a well rested parent is a safer driver. He also tells us why he invented what he calls the most expensive crib mattress in the world and still says sleep training is safe and effective.
Then we get into the hard bit: the crying. How Sujay coaches families through it, the two methods he reaches for and why even he found sleep training his own kids hard. Sally shares the early rising that finally shifted once she sent her husband to the gym. Bec's famous line gets a run too. Hold steady.
If you've been fear mongered out of getting help, this one's for you.
Subscribe to Nap Trapped wherever you listen and find every episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com
What You'll Learn:
- Why there's no formal definition of sleep training and how Sujay defines it
- How sleep cycles and normal night wakings bring sleep associations into play
- How to tell if a sleep association is actually a problem for your household
- What the 1960s learned helplessness experiments do and don't tell us about sleep trained babies
- What the research says about sleep training and attachment
- Why night feeds and breastfeeding can sit alongside sleep training
- The two types of crying and how Sujay matches a method to a family's tolerance
- Why having someone in your corner through the execution makes such a difference
Chapters:
00:00 Happy 100th, Dr. Sujay
05:01 So, What Is Sleep Training?
19:31 Busting the Sleep Training Myths
37:26 Coaching Families Through Crying
45:45 Part Two Next Week
ABOUT:
We're Sally Woods from The Sleep Concierge and Bec Maher from The Sleep Centre. Nap Trapped is our evidence-based baby sleep podcast for tired parents who want real answers without the fear mongering. Dr Sujay Kansagra is a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University and the creator of Lullabee. You'll find him on social media as That Sleep Doc.
Links:
Sally, The Sleep Concierge: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/
Bec, The Sleep Centre: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/
Dr Sujay Kansagra, That Sleep Doc: https://www.instagram.com/thatsleepdoc/
That Sleep Doc on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatsleepdoc
That Sleep Doc on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thatsleepdoc
All of That Sleep Doc's links: https://linktr.ee/thatsleepdoc
Camp Snooze intakes: joinsnooze.com
Nap Trapped: www.naptrappedpodcast.com
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