by Jessica Thiefels
You already know diet culture is BS. Now comes the harder part: living differently in a world still obsessed with shrinking, fixing, and controlling bodies. This podcast is for ongoing, layered healing—real conversations about food, identity, boundaries, and self-trust when there’s no finish line and no perfect way to “do it right.” https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast (nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com)
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June 25, 2026
<p>In this episode, Jess and Mallary chat about the complexities of disordered eating and the healing journey. They explore personal experiences with food, the concept of the 'messy middle' in recovery, and the importance of recognizing “slips” as part of the healing process. Bottom line: for many people, recovery is not a linear path but rather a spectrum of growth and learning, and recognizing this can make the journey a little easier to navigate.</p><ul><li>Connect with Nope on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/</a></li><li>Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/</a></li></ul><br/><p><strong>Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! <a href="https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/</a></strong></p><h2><strong>Meet Our Guest, Mallary</strong></h2><p>Mallary Tenore Tarpley teaches journalism at UT Austin’s Moody College of Communication and writing at the McCombs School of Business.</p><p>Her debut book, SLIP: Life in the Middle of Eating Disorder Recovery (Simon Element, August 2025), blends memoir and journalism to explore the realities of eating disorders and recovery, drawing on her own story along with clinicians, researchers, and others with lived experience. A 2023 Alfred P. Sloan Foundation grant supported the book’s science reporting on the neurobiological and genetic sides of eating disorders.</p><p>She previously served as associate director of UT Austin’s Knight Center for Journalism in the Americas and executive director of Images & Voices of Hope, where she created the Restorative Narrative storytelling framework. She began her career at The Poynter Institute as managing editor of Poynter.org.</p><p>Her writing has appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, TIME, and Teen Vogue. She also writes a weekly newsletter, Write at the Edge.</p><p>She holds a bachelor’s from Providence College and an MFA from Goucher College, and lives in the Austin area with her husband and two children.</p><ul><li><a href="https://calendly.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FSlip%2FMallary-Tenore-Tarpley%2F9781668035016&user_uuid=ECFEOBWWAQ5NLTSG&stage=1&hmac=d65acb221820c274dff1b1d38cbec819cf22ab99c7a59d5beb44e12554dfa988" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Slip/Mallary-Tenore-Tarpley/9781668035016</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fmallarytenoretarpley%2F&user_uuid=ECFEOBWWAQ5NLTSG&stage=1&hmac=36a4123c1ce6a14d8e000ca9a69ed786c1d59c8f4a7dc951bb45befe7d8cc9d8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/mallarytenoretarpley/</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fmallary-tenore-tarpley-6719484%2F&user_uuid=ECFEOBWWAQ5NLTSG&stage=1&hmac=11819498cdd043816534188e2dbf6f999efeed45ae2e25b90e2fb23ab7742425" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallary-tenore-tarpley-6719484/</a></li><li><u><a href="https://calendly.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fmallary.substack.com&user_uuid=ECFEOBWWAQ5NLTSG&stage=1&hmac=a60d64a71c5e0a3e7820072be1cf575d81ac20b4f9ec71699c05f5a35c130442" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mallary.substack.com</a></u> </li></ul><br/>
June 11, 2026
<p>In this episode, Jess and Zariel talk about Zariel’s journey of exploring clothing as a healing tool, challenging societal norms, and embracing authentic self-expression. Tune into our conversation to discover how style can be a powerful form of self-care and body positivity.</p><ul><li>Connect with Nope on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/</a></li><li>Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/</a></li><li>Subscribe on Substack: http://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/ </li></ul><br/><h2><strong>Meet Our Guest, Zariel</strong></h2><p>Zariel Grullón is a passionate first-generation Dominican American dietitian who blends her love for culinary heritage with accessible wellness. Growing up as the family’s gordita, she understands cultural body image struggles and helps the Latine community embrace their bodies and confidently reclaim their cultural foods.</p><p>Through her weight-neutral, Spanglish-infused approach at Love Your Chichos, Zariel guides individuals to heal from dieting and find joy in their health journey. With experience ranging from the farm to outpatient care, she empowers her clients to tackle health while honoring their culture and independence.</p><p>Zariel holds a BS in Biology from Ramapo College of New Jersey and a BS in Nutrition from Montclair State University and completed her DI at the CUNY School of Public Health.</p><ul><li>https://www.instagram.com/loveyourchichos</li><li>https://www.instagram.com/zarielcarmen/</li></ul><br/>
May 21, 2026
<p>In this episode, Jessica and Oona discuss the nuance of the word “fat” and how to talk about this with children. Oona shares practical tips and strategies for teaching children about this word, both generally and in the moment. (Hint: don’t rush to move past it or say it’s bad!) Whether you want to set this foundation with your own child or you work with or spend time with children, this is a must-listen conversation.</p><ul><li>Connect with Nope on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/</a></li><li>Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/</a></li></ul><br/><p><strong>Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! <a href="https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/</a></strong></p>
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