Hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, Talking To Change – A Motivational Interviewing podcast, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.
Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast
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Hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, Talking To Change – A Motivational Interviewing podcast, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.
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Recent Episodes
June 19, 2026
Ep 95 – Advancing MI Practice Through Coding and Coaching
Host Glenn Hinds and guest Katie Hartlieb, PhD, RDN, explore how coding and coaching enhance motivational interviewing practice.
April 20, 2026
Ep 94 – Motivational Interviewing in Leadership & Organisations (MILO) – Part 2
<p><b>Episode 94 – MI in Leadership and Organizations – Part 2</b></p> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Glenn and Seb were excited to bring Jeff Wetherhold, </span><a href="http://m.ed"><span style="font-weight: 400;">M.Ed</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. to the podcast to discuss MI in leadership and organizations (MILO) <img decoding="async" class="alignleft wp-image-24578" src="https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Jeffrey-Wetherhold-150x150.webp" alt="MILO" width="163" height="209" srcset="https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Jeffrey-Wetherhold-234x300.webp 234w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Jeffrey-Wetherhold-799x1024.webp 799w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Jeffrey-Wetherhold-768x984.webp 768w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Jeffrey-Wetherhold-600x769.webp 600w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Jeffrey-Wetherhold.webp 1106w" sizes="(max-width: 163px) 100vw, 163px" />A former behavioral science researcher trained in change management and adult learning, Jeff has spent 20+ years supporting mission-driven organizations through change. </span></p> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Research shows that 88% of organizational change efforts produce no lasting results. The most common reasons center on communication, engagement, and support. Many leaders and managers are never taught how to effectively engage others in change.</span></p> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeff helps leaders and staff navigate change together using Motivational Interviewing (MI) as a foundation. He specializes in adapting MI for the challenges they encounter every day. His approach integrates MI with behavioral science, change management, adult learning principles, and evidence-driven communication methods.</span></p> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeff has trained thousands of professionals in healthcare, human services, and mission-driven organizations in using MI to engage people who may be skeptical, disengaged, or experiencing change fatigue. Clients include the State of Illinois, the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, the University of Nebraska Medical Center, MIT, and the Institute for Healthcare Delivery Design.</span></p> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeff is a board member of Motivational Interviewing in Leadership and Organizations (MILO), a faculty member with the Institute for Healthcare Improvement (IHI), a Prosci Certified Change Practitioner, and a member of the MI Network of Trainers (MINT). He holds a Master’s in Education from Harvard University.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Episode Index:</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 0:00 – Opening and episode introduction </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 7:37 – Jeff introduction and the challenge of organizational change</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 13:30 – The importance of relationship within organizations</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 17:30 – How does change happen within organizations?</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 23:40 – How we work with “agency”?</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 28:20 – Leadership can be lonely and how MI can help?</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 34:20 – An example from the field</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 43:30 – MI in Leadership and Organizations (MILO)</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 50:30 – Jeff’s work around “influence with dignity”</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 53:30 – Differences in training leaders and therapists </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 58:38 – End of recording </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Links and contact information:</span></p> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Email: </span><a href="mailto:jeff@miforhealth.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">jeff@miforhealth.com</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Website: </span><a href="https://www.jeffwetherhold.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.jeffwetherhold.com/</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">LinkedIn: </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wetherhold/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.linkedin.com/in/wetherhold/</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">MI in Leadership and Organizations (MILO): </span><a href="https://www.leadwithmi.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.leadwithmi.org/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> </ul> <h2></h2> <h2 style="font-size: 18pt; text-align: left;">Connect with Glenn & Seb</h2> <p style="text-align: left;">📧 Email: <a href="mailto:podcast@glennhinds.com">podcast@glennhinds.com</a></p> <p style="text-align: left;"><strong>BlueSky</strong></p> <ul style="text-align: left;"> <li><a href="http://@talkingtochange.bsky.social">ChangeTalking</a></li> <li><a href="http://@glennhinds.bsky.social">Glenn Hinds</a></li> <li><a href="http://@sgkfromnc.bsky.social">Sebastian Kaplan</a></li> </ul> <p style="text-align: left;">For all previous episodes, <a href="https://podcast.glennhinds.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">CLICK HERE</a></p> <p style="text-align: left;">We welcome all donations to support us:</p> <p style="text-align: left;">GBP</p> <form action="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr" method="post" target="_blank"><input class="wpedon_paypalbuttonimage" alt="Make your payments with PayPal. It is free, secure, effective." name="submit" src="https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/btn/btn_donateCC_LG.gif" type="image" data-has-listeners="true" /></form> <p style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://www.glennhinds.com/category/podcast/">All Episodes</a></p> <p>The post <a href="https://www.glennhinds.com/motivational-interviewing-in-leadership-organisations-milo/">Ep 94 – Motivational Interviewing in Leadership & Organisations (MILO) – Part 2</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.glennhinds.com">Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants</a>.</p>
February 5, 2026
Ep 93 – Integrating Body Awareness into Motivational Interviewing
<figure id="attachment_24443" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-24443" style="width: 150px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-24443 size-thumbnail" src="https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Miranda-150x150.webp" alt="Integrating Body work with Motivational Interviewing" width="150" height="150" srcset="https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Miranda-150x150.webp 150w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Miranda-300x300.webp 300w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Miranda-100x100.webp 100w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Miranda-600x600.webp 600w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Miranda-96x96.webp 96w" sizes="(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-24443" class="wp-caption-text">Miranda Grattan</figcaption></figure> <figure id="attachment_24448" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-24448" style="width: 150px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img decoding="async" class="wp-image-24448 size-thumbnail" src="https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/marie-delorme-131-copy-150x150.webp" alt="Integrating Body work with Motivational Interviewing" width="150" height="150" srcset="https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/marie-delorme-131-copy-150x150.webp 150w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/marie-delorme-131-copy-300x300.webp 300w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/marie-delorme-131-copy-100x100.webp 100w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/marie-delorme-131-copy-600x600.webp 600w, https://www.glennhinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/marie-delorme-131-copy-96x96.webp 96w" sizes="(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-24448" class="wp-caption-text">Marie Delorme</figcaption></figure> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Miranda Grattan and Marie Delorme to the podcast to discuss integrating body awareness and somatic therapy into MI. </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">Marie Delorme is a </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Certified</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Motivational Trainer based in Ottawa, Canada, regularly offering MI training and coaching internationally. She is a somatic psychotherapist certified in Integrated Somatic Therapy Practice (C-ISTP™) and provides trauma-informed therapy in both in-person and virtual settings. Marie’s work integrates motivational interviewing with body-based practices such as restorative yoga, breathwork, Thai yoga massage, movement, and sound therapy. She is passionate about creating safe, supportive spaces where people can reconnect with their bodies, release stress and trauma at their own pace, and move toward greater clarity, self-compassion, and personal growth.</span></p> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Miranda Grattan is a Registered Social Worker (RSW, MSW), MI trainer and consultant, and a Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner (SEP™). She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2013 and served as a coach for the MINT-endorsed online Training New Trainers (TNT) in 2025. Based in Prince George, Canada, on the unceded lands of the Lheidli T’enneh, her work is grounded in relational, decolonizing, and anti-oppressive practice. Miranda is also an approved Advanced-level Training Assistant and a beginner-level Personal Education Session Provider within Somatic Experiencing® International’s three-year professional training program.</span></p> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Drawing on her years of MI practice and teaching, alongside her work as a body-oriented trauma therapist, she explores an emerging contribution within the MI community: how attention to nervous system capacity, embodiment, and neurobiology can deepen MI spirit, presence, and evocation. Her approach blends close observation of MI in action with practical guidance for nervous-system-informed communication and practice. She also facilitates neurobiologically informed professional learning across service systems, informing her understanding of motivation, capacity, and readiness in complex practice contexts.</span></p> <p><b>Somatic Experiencing International (SEI) </b><b>Disclaimer</b></p> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Somatic Experiencing® modality is provided for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute providing medical advice, medical treatment or tools used for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease. Those seeking personal medical advice should consult with a licensed physician. For more information about the Somatic Experiencing modality, please visit the website </span><a href="https://www.traumahealing.org./"><span style="font-weight: 400;">www.traumahealing.org.</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">SEI does not endorse, approve, or support any specific authors, practitioners, or contributors unless explicitly stated otherwise. Views, opinions, methodologies, or practices expressed by individuals regarding SEI modalities are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official views of SEI. </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Episode Index:</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 0:00 – Opening and episode introduction </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 7:05 – Marie and Miranda’s introductions and early MI stories</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 14:15 – Marie and Miranda’s early experiences with body focused work</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 19:00 – Noticing the body when doing MI</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 31:00 – Alignment of the mind, the heart, and the body</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 36:45 – Integrating body awareness and MI</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 46:35 – What does a body need when it is healing itself?</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 56:10 – Marie demonstrating a resting somatic exercise</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 1:05:15 – Miranda demonstrating an activating somatic exercise</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 1:27:10 – “The body as a doorway to motivation” </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 1:28:30 – Marie working on balance and Miranda being an ice hockey mom</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 1:32:46 – End of recording </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Links and contact information:</span></p> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Marie Delorme</span> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="2"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Website: </span><a href="https://www.mariedelorme.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.mariedelorme.com</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="2"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Email: </span><a href="mailto:Marie.c.delorme@gmail.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Marie.c.delorme@gmail.com</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="2"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Instagram: @mariecarmendelorme </span></li> </ul> </li> </ul> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Miranda Grattan</span> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="2"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Website: </span><a href="https://www.inneroasiscc.ca/about-me"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.inneroasiscc.ca/about-me</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="2"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Email: </span><a href="mailto:mirandagrattan@gmail.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">mirandagrattan@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> </ul> </li> </ul> <h2 style="font-size: 18pt; text-align: left;">Connect with Glenn & Seb</h2> <p style="text-align: left;">📧 Email: <a href="mailto:podcast@glennhinds.com">podcast@glennhinds.com</a></p> <p style="text-align: left;"><strong>BlueSky</strong></p> <ul style="text-align: left;"> <li><a href="http://@talkingtochange.bsky.social">ChangeTalking</a></li> <li><a href="http://@glennhinds.bsky.social">Glenn Hinds</a></li> <li><a href="http://@sgkfromnc.bsky.social">Sebastian Kaplan</a></li> </ul> <p style="text-align: left;">For all previous episodes, <a href="https://podcast.glennhinds.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">CLICK HERE</a></p> <p style="text-align: left;">We welcome all donations to support us:</p> <p style="text-align: left;">GBP</p> <form action="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr" method="post" target="_blank"><input class="wpedon_paypalbuttonimage" alt="Make your payments with PayPal. 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