Join hosts Chaplain Alice Tremaine and Chaplain John Betz as they navigate the world of spiritual care through facilitated discussions, interviews, and personal stories. If you’re looking to hear from diverse voices of interfaith chaplaincy, feel a sense of community among peers, and visualize the future of the profession, this show is for you. Learn more about the Association Professional Chaplains® (APC) and its affiliate, Board of Chaplaincy Certification, Inc.® (BCCI) at www.apchaplains.org.
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Alice Tremaine
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education · religion & spirituality · society & culture
The Chaplain and the Doctor: Redefining Whole-Person Care with Betty Clark and Dr. Jessica Nutik Zitter
What happens when medicine and spiritual care come together as equal partners?
In this episode of The Chaplain’s Compass, Alice Tremaine and John Betz welcome Chaplain Betty Clark and Dr. Jessica Nutik Zitter, the subjects of the documentary The Chaplain and the Doctor, for a powerful conversation about compassion, collaboration, and the human side of healthcare.
Betty, a supervising and palliative care chaplain, and Jessica, a palliative care physician and award-winning filmmaker, share how their professional partnership evolved into a meaningful friendship and transformed their understanding of patient care.
Together, they explore the often-overlooked role of chaplains in healthcare, the impact of implicit bias and racial disparities, and why listening to patients' stories is essential to providing compassionate, whole-person care. They also discuss the power of documentary filmmaking to challenge assumptions, elevate unheard voices, and inspire change within medical institutions.
Through personal experiences and reflections on their film, Betty and Jessica remind us that healing requires more than treating physical symptoms. It requires recognizing the dignity, humanity, and spiritual needs of every person.
Connect with Chaplain Betty Clark and Dr. Jessica Nutik Zitter:
LinkedIn: Dr. Jessica Nutik Zitter
Instagram: @jessicazittermd
Documentary: The Chaplain and the Doctor
Learn more: Reel Medicine Media
Connect with Alice and John:Instagram: @alicetremaine (Alice) | @researchchaplain (John)LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/alicetremaine/ (Alice) | www.linkedin.com/in/chaplainbetz/ (John)Phone: 502-536-7508
Learn more:Chaplaincy Now: www.chaplaincynow.com/Association of Professional Chaplains: www.apchaplains.org/
20 Oct 2026
Beyond Recognition: The Meaning of Spiritual Care Week with Dr. Clyde T. Angel
Spiritual Care Week is more than an opportunity to recognize chaplains. It's a chance to help others understand the essential role spiritual care plays in healing.
In this episode of The Chaplain’s Compass, Alice Tremaine and John Betz welcome Dr. Clyde T. Angel, longtime chaplain, pastoral counselor, former Chief of Chaplain Services at the Indianapolis VA Medical Center, and chair of the Spiritual Care Week Committee for the COMISS Network.
Together, they explore the history and purpose of Spiritual Care Week, the importance of advocating for professional chaplaincy, and this year's theme, Healing Through Presence and Grace.
Drawing from decades of experience in ministry, mental health, and veterans' care, Dr. Angel shares why chaplains must move beyond simply being present in an organization to becoming fully integrated members of the care team. The conversation also examines the importance of research, building relationships with healthcare leadership, and demonstrating the value of spiritual care.
As Spiritual Care Week 2026 takes place October 18–24, this conversation invites chaplains and spiritual care professionals to reflect on how they can advocate for their work, strengthen their professional relationships, and help others recognize the healing power of spiritual care.
Connect with Dr. Clyde T. Angel:
Spiritual Care Week: www.spiritualcareweek.org
COMISS Network: www.comissnetwork.org
Connect with Alice and John:
Instagram: @alicetremaine (Alice) | @researchchaplain (John)
Phone: 502-536-7508
Learn more: Chaplaincy Now | Association of Professional Chaplains
8 Sept 2026
AI, Ethics, and the Future of Spiritual Care with Rev. Sheri Winesett Campbell and Rev. Justin Martin
AI is already changing healthcare, but what does that mean for a profession built around human presence?
Alice Tremaine and John Betz are joined by Rev. Sheri Winesett Campbell and Rev. Justin Martin, board-certified chaplains, members of the Association of Professional Chaplains Board of Directors, and co-chairs of the APC Ethos Task Force.
Together, they explore the growing role of artificial intelligence in spiritual care and the ethical questions chaplains need to be asking now. From documentation and administrative support to direct patient care, privacy, bias, and the possibility of AI becoming a substitute for human connection, the conversation examines where technology can support chaplaincy and where boundaries may be necessary.
Sheri and Justin also share the work behind Ethos, which stands for Ethical Technology for Human-Oriented Spiritual Care, and APC's efforts to develop practical ethical guidance that can evolve alongside rapidly changing technology.
At the heart of the conversation is a bigger question: How can chaplains embrace useful technology without losing the deeply human presence that defines spiritual care?
Connect with Rev. Sheri Winesett Campbell and Rev. Justin Martin:Learn more about the Association of Professional Chaplains, the Ethos Task Force, upcoming resources, and APC's work in professional chaplaincy:www.apchaplains.org
Connect with Alice and John:Instagram: @alicetremaine (Alice) | @researchchaplain (John)LinkedIn: Alice Tremaine | John BetzPhone: 502-536-7508
Learn more: Chaplaincy Now | Association of Professional Chaplains
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