Three Lumber Industry veterans talk about the weekly, monthly and yearly trends. What is going on with inventory in the field, production and distribution. We help educate everyone in the distribution chain with information most like to not talk about. Highlighted items that are overvalued and undervalued are also discussed. Guests in the industry will occasionally drop in to help us dial in some lumber details. Most important is we have fun talking lumber and our listeners love it.

The Lumber Word
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Three Lumber Industry veterans talk about the weekly, monthly and yearly trends. What is going on with inventory in the field, production and distribution. We help educate everyone in the distribution chain with information most like to not talk about. Highlighted items that are overvalued and undervalued are also discussed. Guests in the industry will occasionally drop in to help us dial in some lumber details. Most important is we have fun talking lumber and our listeners love it.
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June 25, 2026
EP 173: The Lumber Market Just Changed—and Most People Haven't Noticed
Episode Summary Episode #173 welcomes returning guest Mike Wisnefski of Westline Capital for an in-depth discussion on the evolving lumber market. The panel explores lessons from the Southern Pine Conference, why the CME Southern Pine futures contract could benefit from monthly expirations, and how better participation could improve liquidity. Mike shares how private equity ownership is changing sawmill decision-making, while the group examines why Western and Eastern lumber markets have tightened despite mixed economic headlines. The conversation also dives into inventory strategy, options pricing, reload capacity, trucking, and the growing importance of disciplined risk management. Finally, the hosts debate housing policy, builder demand, infrastructure, and why regional economics continue to drive long-term lumber consumption. This episode offers practical insights for wholesalers, retailers, mills, traders, and anyone following the North American lumber industry. Timeline 00:00 – Introductions, Chicago sports, and welcome back to Mike Wisnefski. 02:00 – Southern Pine Conference recap—networking, collaboration, and supply chain partnerships. 04:00 – Private equity ownership of sawmills and changing mill economics. 05:30 – Future of the CME Southern Pine futures contract and ideas for improving liquidity. 10:00 – Cash settlement, delivery points, and regional pricing challenges. 15:00 – Western lumber market strength, improving order files, and species updates. 18:00 – Dimension shortages, 2x10 pricing, and shifting production patterns. 20:00 – Eastern market tightness, European imports, and shrinking inventories. 25:00 – Housing legislation, permitting challenges, and rebuilding constraints. 31:30 – Regional migration, affordability, and long-term housing demand. 34:00 – Inventory strategy, reload economics, and why distributors are regaining value. 40:00 – Options pricing, risk management, and disciplined trading strategies. 44:00 – Closing thoughts on market structure, hedging opportunities, and the second-half outlook. Guest: Mike Wisnefski from Westline Capital Strategies Inc. MikeW@westlinecapital.com Advertiser Fastmarkets RISI Tiranth Amarasinghe Product Marketing Manager Tiranth.Amarasinghe@fastmarkets.com www.fastmarkets.com Show Contacts: Gregg Riley: Gregg@sitkainc.com Charles DeLaTorre: cdelatorre@ifpwood.com Matt Beymer: mattbeymer@hamptonlumber.com Ashley Boeckholt: ashley@sitkainc.com

June 18, 2026
EP 172: Lumber Market Rally: Inventory Panic, Freight Crunch & Why Prices Could Keep Climbing
Matt Layman returns to The Lumber Word for an in-depth discussion on one of the hottest topics in the lumber industry: the summer lumber rally. With inventories running lean, freight markets tightening, and mills extending order files, the crew explores whether lumber prices still have room to run. The conversation begins with a recap of the Southern Pine hedging seminar hosted by StoneX and Westline Capital, where attendees discussed the future of lumber risk management, liquidity challenges, and why more companies need to gain hands-on experience using futures markets. The group then shifts to the cash lumber market, breaking down strength in SPF, Southern Yellow Pine, Hem-Fir, and Douglas Fir. Matt shares what he’s seeing in the Pacific Northwest, while Gregg and Ashley discuss supply constraints, delayed shipments, trucking shortages, and why buying lumber is becoming harder than selling it. They also analyze the latest housing starts data, debate whether demand is stronger than many expect, and discuss how lean inventories throughout the supply chain continue to support higher prices despite widespread economic pessimism. Plus: freight disruptions, rail delays, inventory management, futures trading lessons, Elon Musk, SpaceX, and Ashley’s outlook for where lumber prices may be headed through July and beyond. If you’re a lumber dealer, wholesaler, manufacturer, builder, trader, or investor looking to stay ahead of the market, this episode is packed with actionable insights. Topics Covered Lumber Market Outlook SPF Lumber Prices Southern Yellow Pine (SYP) Hem-Fir & Douglas Fir Markets Lumber Futures & Hedging Freight & Trucking Costs Rail Service Challenges Housing Starts Analysis Inventory Management Lumber Industry Economics SpaceX & Market Psychology Summer 2026 Lumber Rally Timeline 00:00 – Matt Layman Returns to The Lumber Word 03:00 – Southern Pine Futures, Hedging & Market Participation 07:00 – Risk Management: How Lumber Companies Should Think About Futures 15:00 – Trading Lessons: Winning, Losing & Market Discipline 16:00 – SPF, Hem-Fir & Douglas Fir Break Higher 21:00 – Is Southern Yellow Pine Finally Joining the Rally? 27:00 – Housing Starts: What the Headlines Missed 30:00 – Elon Musk, SpaceX & Economic Optimism 34:00 – Ashley’s Bullish Case for Lumber 38:00 – Freight Bottlenecks, Rail Delays & Inventory Shortages 44:00+ – Why Buying Lumber Is Harder Than Selling It Episode Takeaway The lumber market continues to be driven by one simple reality: inventories remain too low while supply struggles to keep up. Despite negative sentiment around housing and the economy, buyers continue to chase wood, mills are extending order files, and freight remains a major constraint. The panel agrees that the path of least resistance for lumber prices remains higher until inventories are rebuilt and supply catches up. Guest: Matt Layman www.laymansguide.com Matt@laymansguide.com Advertiser Fastmarkets RISI Tiranth Amarasinghe Product Marketing Manager Tiranth.Amarasinghe@fastmarkets.com www.fastmarkets.com Show Contacts: Gregg Riley: Gregg@sitkainc.com Charles DeLaTorre: cdelatorre@ifpwood.com Matt Beymer: mattbeymer@hamptonlumber.com Ashley Boeckholt: ashley@sitkainc.com

June 11, 2026
EP 171: The Bull Market Nobody Believes In (Yet)
The lumber market may be sending its clearest signal of 2026: supply is shrinking, inventories are lean, and futures are leading the charge higher. In Episode 171, the crew welcomes industry veteran Kip Fotheringham for a deep dive into the forces reshaping North American lumber markets. From tightening SPF supply and Southern Yellow Pine transportation challenges to Canadian curtailments, futures fund short covering, and the surprising resilience of housing demand, the group lays out the bullish case that’s beginning to unfold. They debate whether we’re in the first inning or the third inning of a larger rally, examine why major funds are potentially abandoning short positions, and discuss how shrinking production capacity could collide with steady demand to create a much tighter market through the summer. The conversation also explores Berkshire Hathaway’s investment in homebuilding, multifamily construction strength, pulp mill closures, fiber supply challenges, and the Longview explosion’s potential impact on Western sawmill production. If you’re a lumber buyer, trader, mill operator, or builder, this episode offers a roadmap to the risks—and opportunities—developing beneath the surface of today’s market. Timeline 00:00 – Lumber, Airports & Industry Reach Portland Airport gets a surprising shoutout, and the crew shares a story highlighting how The Lumber Word continues to influence industry conversations. 03:30 – Are We Early in a Bull Market? The panel debates whether the lumber rally is just getting started and what buyers should be doing right now. 07:00 – Transportation Becomes the Story Escalating trucking costs and regional supply constraints are changing how lumber moves across North America. 09:00 – Canada’s Supply Problem Gets Real Discussion on curtailments, mill economics, and why North American production continues to shrink. 15:00 – Why This Summer Feels Different The crew explains why inventory positions, contract reductions, and tariff pressures have created an unusual setup. 22:00 – The Longview Explosion & Fiber Fallout A major disruption in the Pacific Northwest raises new questions about residual markets and future sawmill production. 25:00 – Smart Money is Buying Housing Berkshire Hathaway, Japanese investors, and multifamily construction all point toward longer-term confidence in housing demand. 30:00 – Funds Are Covering Shorts Kip breaks down what the futures market is signaling and why short-covering could fuel a larger move higher. 35:00 – What Could Derail the Rally? The group examines the biggest risks to their bullish outlook and what buyers should watch over the next 30 days. 44:00 – Final Take: Bullish Until Proven Otherwise The episode wraps with a discussion on shrinking supply, steady demand, and why the market’s biggest surprise may still be ahead. Guest: Kip Fotheringham Lumber Trader and Market Expert KipF@telus.net Advertiser Fastmarkets RISI Tiranth Amarasinghe Product Marketing Manager Tiranth.Amarasinghe@fastmarkets.com www.fastmarkets.com Show Contacts: Gregg Riley: Gregg@sitkainc.com Charles DeLaTorre: cdelatorre@ifpwood.com Matt Beymer: mattbeymer@hamptonlumber.com Ashley Boeckholt: ashley@sitkainc.com
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