When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson, Brian Casel and Jordan Gal tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.

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When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson, Brian Casel and Jordan Gal tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.
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Recent Episodes

June 5, 2026
BIG CITY ENERGY
<p>Justin's got a major life question for the podcast, Jordan's trying to not be angry, and Brian thinks he's cracked the video editing code.</p><p>Timestamps:</p><ul><li>00:00 Introduction</li><li>01:06 Justin's Big Question</li><li>10:04 Personal Reflections on City Life</li><li>13:05 Family Dynamics and Future Living Plans</li><li>24:37 The Energy of New Beginnings</li><li>30:22 The Wisdom of Solitude vs. Ambition</li><li>38:58 Accelerating Growth and Optimization</li><li>50:41 Navigating Advertising Challenges</li><li>53:17 The Impact of Confidence on Communication</li><li>01:01:58 Innovating Video Editing with AI</li><li>01:08:00 Balancing Quality and Quantity in Content Creation</li><li>01:14:44 The Human Cost of Rapid AI Adoption<p><strong>YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️</strong></p></li></ul><p>🎤 <a href="https://oxtmdbpx.clarityflow.com/i/the-panel">Send us an audio or video message</a></p><p>📧 <strong>Email us:</strong> panelpodcastshow@gmail.com</p><p><br><strong>Links mentioned in this episode:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://justinjackson.ca/hard-thing">Do the Hard Thing</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/browser-use/video-use">video-use</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/heygen-com/hyperframes">HyperFrames</a></li><li><a href="https://ckarchive.com/b/zlughnhk2p7z0c7qrr9qehwl8r2lls6hl9zwo">Mediocre ideas</a></li><li><a href="https://registerspill.thorstenball.com/p/building-software-is-learning">Building Software is Learning</a></li><li><a href="https://transistor.fm/features/video/">Transistor Video Podcast Hosting</a></li></ul>

May 29, 2026
I spend money. People see the product. They buy. We grow.
<p>After figuring out how to stay in shape with exercise, Jordan and Brian wrestle with what each other's north star should be in their day to day work. </p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>00:00 Introduction <br>01:19 Peptides and Supplements<br>08:06 Gym vs Home Workouts<br>14:02 Daily Walking<br>17:01 Brian's Calorie Tracking<br>21:40 The Importance of Optimization<br>24:27 Jordan's Ad Spend Thoughts<br>29:08 SEO and Email Marketing Automation<br>33:58 Brian's trying to leverage AI to limit bottlenecks<br>53:23 Balancing Urgency and Ambition<br>55:52 Connecting Daily Tasks to Long-Term Goals<br>01:03:29 Navigating Multiple North Stars</p><p><strong>YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️</strong></p><p>🎤 <a href="https://oxtmdbpx.clarityflow.com/i/the-panel">Send us an audio or video message</a></p><p>📧 <strong>Email us:</strong> panelpodcastshow@gmail.com</p><p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:7nxol62kr4slo6zk6tnyfmbi/post/3mmzjsm7fv423" title="🦋 Reply on Bluesky">🦋 Reply on Bluesky</a><br> <br></p><p><strong>Links mentioned in this episode:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.loseit.com/">Lose It! - Weight Loss That Fits</a></li><li><a href="https://HeyRosy.com">HeyRosy.com</a></li><li><a href="https://BuilderMethods.com">Builder Methods</a></li><li><a href="https://Claude.ai">Claude AI</a></li><li><a href="https://Hermes.ai">Hermes Agent Platform</a><p></p></li></ul>

May 22, 2026
Vibe coding is not a real business model
<p>How is multiplayer being addressed in AI, should we scale humans or agents, and is every small business going to vibe code their own apps? With special guest Henry Poydar.</p><p>Timestamps:<br>00:00 Welcome to The Panel<br>03:06 Business Updates<br>05:53 Coordination Challenges in Teams with AI<br>11:48 Trust and Accountability in Team Dynamics<br>17:45 The Future of Team Structures<br>20:30 Scaling with Agents vs. Traditional Teams<br>25:48 The Future of Company Organization<br>27:58 The Intersection of AI and Creativity<br>36:02 Challenges in the Music Industry with AI<br>40:32 Navigating the VC Landscape<br>45:45 The Indie Entrepreneur Path<br>48:20 Vertical Saas and tool building<br>01:01:17 Weeknd plans and talking politics</p><p><strong>YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️</strong></p><p>🎤 <a href="https://oxtmdbpx.clarityflow.com/i/the-panel">Send us an audio or video message</a></p><p>📧 <strong>Email us:</strong> panelpodcastshow@gmail.com</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqVS3YjAiz0" title="📺 Leave a comment on YouTube">📺 Leave a comment on YouTube</a><br> </p><p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:7nxol62kr4slo6zk6tnyfmbi/post/3mmhvdtvz5z2s" title="🦋 Reply on Bluesky">🦋 Reply on Bluesky</a><br> <br></p><p><strong>Links mentioned in this episode:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://runsteady.com/">Steady</a></li><li><a href="https://henrypoydar.com/">Henry Poydar</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5TAShNKMZek">TinaFey on what it's really like to have a teenage daughter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.charlieai.io/">Charlie AI</a></li><li><a href="https://devin.ai/">Devin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqbfokhLioY">How I build agents that work the night shift</a></li><li><a href="https://www.granola.ai/">Granola</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/vibe-coding-slop-ai-tools-e6a99394">Vibe-Coded AI 'Slop' Is Flooding the World With Potentially Dangerous Code—'Eventually It Will Catch Up to Us'</a></li></ul>
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