
The Way Out Is In
Hosted by Brother Phap Huu and Jo Confino · Plum Village
5.0from 4,588 ratings
- 123
- Episodes
- 22
- Transcribed
- 4,588
- Ratings
- Bi-weekly
- Cadence
- 2021
- First episode
- 58M
- YouTube views
About The Way Out Is In
This podcast series is aimed at helping us to transcend our fear and anger so that we can be more engaged in the world in a way that develops love and compassion. Thich Nhat Hanh’s calligraphy ‘The Way Out Is In” highlights that the way out of any difficulty is to look deeply within, gain insights and then put them into practice. "The Way Out is In" is co-hosted by Brother Phap Huu, Thich Nhat Hanh's personal attendant for 17 years and the abbot of Plum Village's Upper Hamlet, and Jo Confino, who works at the intersection of personal transformation and systems change. The podcast is co-produced by the Plum Village App and Global Optimism, with support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation.
- Publisher
- Plum Village
- Category
- education · health & fitness · religion & spirituality
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 5 Aug 2021
- Latest episode
- 29 Oct 2026
Latest episodes
22 of 123 episodes have a transcript.

29 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
A Love Letter to the Vietnameseness (Episode #117)

15 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
Trust in Life (Episode #116)

1 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
Asking for Help (Episode #115)
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A Love Letter to the Vietnameseness (Episode #117)
Published 29 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] Cause I have so much grace for my parents. I was just with my mom and I continue to have so much grace and acceptance. Mommy, I'm just happy that you have found a way and I don't need you to change anymore. When I was growing up, I was like, mom, you gotta be different. You gotta be better. […]
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See plansWho has been a guest on The Way Out Is In
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- Nho Tran
- Ocean Vuong
- Sister True Dedication
- Pham Minh Huong
- Brother Phap Xa
Reach and audience
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- YouTube views
- 58,063,121
- Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025
- Apple Podcasts (US)
- 4.9 / 5
- 1,400 ratings
- Spotify
- 5.0 / 5
- 3,188 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 80 / 100
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- Quality
- 65
- Social presence
- 94
- YouTube
- 93
- Engagement
- 99
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Who hosts The Way Out Is In?
Brother Phap Huu and Jo Confino host the show. Published by Plum Village.
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The show publishes bi-weekly, based on its RSS feed.
Does The Way Out Is In take guests?
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