by 未来预想图
无商业，不生活。欢迎收听声音杂志“现在进行时”。 "现在进行时”是一档由“未来预想图”推出的播客。未来预想图是由《第一财经》杂志推出的一个面向年轻人的生活方式项目，团队主要设立在东京，关注建筑与设计，店铺与零售，城市与商业，媒体与文化等领域，以独立客观视角观察日本乃至全球的新鲜事，希望与你共同打开视野，建立属于自己的生活方式。 微信公众号：未来预想图（D-labo）
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April 28, 2025
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/684c-audiofreehighqps/16/4A/GKwRIDoL5MAlAB1eggOh7gk3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/684c-audiofreehighqps/16/4A/GKwRIDoL5MAlAB1eggOh7gk3.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/684c-audiofreehighqps/16/4A/GKwRIDoL5MAlAB1eggOh7gk3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="588.2107023411371" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/684c-audiofreehighqps/16/4A/GKwRIDoL5MAlAB1eggOh7gk3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="109.79933110367894"><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>大阪· 关西世博在一片忙乱中开幕了。有意思的是，围绕其 logo、视觉延展以及吉祥物等的争议早就已出现，且一直没有停歇。在社交网络上，它的 logo 被人们形容为“大肠”，或者直接被不客气地打上“很恶心”的标签。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>但它确实能激起人们的好奇心：这个设计在说什么故事？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>在调研的过程中，我们逐渐发现，这套备受争议的视觉系统不仅话题度十足，其实用性和延展空间也不俗。本期节目，我们就来聊聊这套视觉系统是如何而来，它是玩抽象，还是好设计？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 主播 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>赵慧 未来预想图主编</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 时间轴 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>01:04 看似“抽象”的设计，背后也有漫长的决策过程</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>03:55 为什么看起来像“大肠”的设计能够脱颖而出？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>06:28 这套设计，“实用性”很强</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>08:14 从 logo 延展出的视觉系统显得十分灵活</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 延伸阅读 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>Expo 2025 Design System</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">https://www.expo2025.or.jp/en/overview/design_system/</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>未来预想图的报道：《</span><span>大阪・关西世博会今天开幕，用 10 个线索改变你对它的印象</span><span>》</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/VMYzXY7v9xbYT_fnnYW82w</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>未来预想图专访字体设计师</span><span>小林章：《敏捷的棕毛狐狸跃过一条懒狗：发现文字设计的秘密</span><span>》</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/I7VonfYjWe0dW3Z3aBDBZw</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 后期制作 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>潘鑫</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 收听方式 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>你可以通过小宇宙播客 App、苹果播客、Spotify、喜马拉雅、网易云音乐、豆瓣播客、QQ 音乐等平台收听节目。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 认识我们 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>微信公众号：未来预想图</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>联系我们，管理员 D 桑微信号：dream-labo</span></p>
April 22, 2025
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/57ad-audiofreehighqps/8B/7A/GKwRIMAL3WxpAA6z9gOdU1DB.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/57ad-audiofreehighqps/8B/7A/GKwRIMAL3WxpAA6z9gOdU1DB.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/57ad-audiofreehighqps/8B/7A/GKwRIMAL3WxpAA6z9gOdU1DB.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="625" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/57ad-audiofreehighqps/8B/7A/GKwRIMAL3WxpAA6z9gOdU1DB.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="116.66666666666667"><br></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>职场、情感、社会新闻……中文播客节目中常出现的主题，怎么看都是为了“大人”而准备的。根据</span><span>播客与数字音频企业</span> <span>JustPod 发布的《2024 中文播客新观察》</span><span>，中文播客听众的平均年龄为 31.9 岁，超过 90% 的听众都有本科及以上学历。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>声动活泼出品的播客《Knock Knock 世界》，却选择面向 9～13 岁的孩子。“成为 F1 车手有多难”，“卡牌生意大揭秘”，“关税如何影响日常人的生活”，《Knock Knock 世界》的选题不仅有面向孩童的科普，也有紧跟时事的分析。节目也鼓励孩子来提报选题。编辑部觉得，“</span><span>少年朋友的好奇心，比我们‘有气势’得多”。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>本期节目，我们与声动活泼联合创始人徐涛聊了聊，一个能让孩子感到“被尊重”的播客节目，是怎么做出来的？如何在播客中为孩子们打开好奇世界的大门，通过播客加深亲子之间的理解与连接？当然，我们也没忘了向徐涛提问：</span><span>为什么要给孩子做一档播客？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 嘉宾 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>徐涛 声动活泼联合创始人</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 主播 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>赵慧 未来预想图主编</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 时间轴 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>00:54 《Knock Knock 世界》是怎么诞生的？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>04:31 学龄前？初中生？谁是这档节目的目标受众？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>08:19 为什么要给孩子做一档播客节目？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>13:55 </span><span>少年朋友的好奇心，有时候比大人“有气势”得多</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>18:14 </span><span>音效、表达和选题：用尊重孩子的方式制作节目</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>29:31 </span><span>《Knock Knock 世界》是儿童版《声动早咖啡》吗？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>32:21 中国的播客行业还未到“卷”的程度</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>39:41 声动活泼在播客商业化上的努力</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 延伸阅读 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>Knock Knock 世界｜第一季</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/67ce9e52a97df5faf716bcc7</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>Vol 39：与徐涛、杨一和小宇宙芒芒谈播客商业化</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episodes/616e93423180b2a2789e7af1</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>播客节目《Wow in the World》</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">https://tinkercast.com/all-podcasts/wow-in-the-world/</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>播客节目《How I Build This》</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>播客节目《This American Life》</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">https://www.thisamericanlife.org/</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 后期制作 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>潘鑫</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 收听方式 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>你可以通过小宇宙播客 App、苹果播客、Spotify、喜马拉雅、网易云音乐、豆瓣播客、QQ 音乐等平台收听节目。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 认识我们 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>微信公众号：未来预想图</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>联系我们，管理员 D 桑微信号：dream-labo</span></p><br>
April 8, 2025
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/be21-audiofreehighqps/60/03/GKwRIasLytpbAB45rgOSgqb6.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/be21-audiofreehighqps/60/03/GKwRIasLytpbAB45rgOSgqb6.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/be21-audiofreehighqps/60/03/GKwRIasLytpbAB45rgOSgqb6.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="588.2107023411371" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/be21-audiofreehighqps/60/03/GKwRIasLytpbAB45rgOSgqb6.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="109.79933110367894"><br></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>上海天安千树，这座商业综合体在还未完全建成时就充满了争议：它的体量巨大，外观颇为出挑</span><span>。</span><span>天安千树</span><span>出自托马斯·赫斯维克（Thomas Heatherwick）之手，他也设计了 2010 年上海世博会英国馆——那个长满了刺的“蒲公英”，2012 年他还为伦敦奥运会设计了主火炬塔。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>赫斯维克习惯</span><span>称自己为“设计师”，而非“建筑师”。近期，我们采访了他，你可以在同步发布的番外节目中听到采访原录音。</span><span>赫斯维克的</span><span>《</span><span>人本主义</span><span>》在 2023 年出版，直到现在他仍在为此奔波。你也许会认为</span><span>这是一本大师作品</span><span>集，但如果你打开它，会发现作者没怎么提他做的项目，而是向我们介绍他喜爱的建筑师、建筑、艺术史、业界的利益关系，试图讨论他深信不疑的设计理念。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>赫斯维克常常创造“奇观”，同时也为自己能精准预算控制而自豪。你能从他的作品中看到百年前英国工艺美术运动的影子，他用其反抗现代建筑的“</span><span>扁平、光滑、笔直</span><span>”，或者用他的话说——“无聊”。本期节目，我们邀请了建筑师、《城市罐头》主播 Yao 一起聊聊，赫斯维克口中的“人本主义”是什么？打破无聊为什么这么重要？</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 嘉宾 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>Yao 建筑师、《城市罐头》主播</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>邢梦妮 未来预想图编辑</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 主播 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>赵慧 未来预想图主编</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 时间轴 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>00:41 三位主播对</span><span>赫斯维克对作品有什么印象？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>16:26 赫斯维克所说的“人本主义”在讲什么？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>24:20 赫斯维克与英国工艺美术运动</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>30:07 “人本主义”是符合如今城市发展需求的吗？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>32:46 赫斯维克为什么认为柯布西耶是“无聊之神”？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>38:46 城市中的无聊体验有哪些？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>50:22 主播们心中的“人本主义”：友好、便利、包容无目的</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>01:00:00 总归要谈钱：预算有限的情况下，怎么把钱花到刀刃上？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>01:07:56 “士绅化”被反复批评，但它也许会是城市自由生长的种子</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">| 延伸阅读 |</strong></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>节目中提到的项目：</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>01:49 Coal Drops Yard 购物中心（伦敦）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f8b6-audiofreehighqps/2B/4A/GAqhQ6cLytqwAApUGgOSgu41.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f8b6-audiofreehighqps/2B/4A/GAqhQ6cLytqwAApUGgOSgu41.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f8b6-audiofreehighqps/2B/4A/GAqhQ6cLytqwAApUGgOSgu41.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="512.2058823529412" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f8b6-audiofreehighqps/2B/4A/GAqhQ6cLytqwAApUGgOSgu41.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="95.61176470588236"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>05:07 </span><span>The </span><span>Vessel（纽约）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="2" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2525-audiofreehighqps/34/AE/GAqhp50LytrBAAhUJwOSgvuP.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2525-audiofreehighqps/34/AE/GAqhp50LytrBAAhUJwOSgvuP.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2525-audiofreehighqps/34/AE/GAqhp50LytrBAAhUJwOSgvuP.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1024.21875" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2525-audiofreehighqps/34/AE/GAqhp50LytrBAAhUJwOSgvuP.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="191.1875"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>06:29 Little Island 水上公园（纽约）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="3" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/879c-audiofreehighqps/22/6B/GKwRIRwLytrJAAmuqAOSgwHV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/879c-audiofreehighqps/22/6B/GKwRIRwLytrJAAmuqAOSgwHV.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/879c-audiofreehighqps/22/6B/GKwRIRwLytrJAAmuqAOSgwHV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="499.8529411764706" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/879c-audiofreehighqps/22/6B/GKwRIRwLytrJAAmuqAOSgwHV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.30588235294118"><img data-key="4" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ba28-audiofreehighqps/29/67/GAqh4zILytrRAAovRQOSgwhy.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ba28-audiofreehighqps/29/67/GAqh4zILytrRAAovRQOSgwhy.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ba28-audiofreehighqps/29/67/GAqh4zILytrRAAovRQOSgwhy.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="499.8529411764706" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ba28-audiofreehighqps/29/67/GAqh4zILytrRAAovRQOSgwhy.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.30588235294118"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>08:15 Lantern house（纽约）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="5" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4dc8-audiofreehighqps/40/93/GKwRIW4LytrZAB--RAOSgw3x.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4dc8-audiofreehighqps/40/93/GKwRIW4LytrZAB--RAOSgw3x.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4dc8-audiofreehighqps/40/93/GKwRIW4LytrZAB--RAOSgw3x.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="970.3791469194313" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4dc8-audiofreehighqps/40/93/GKwRIW4LytrZAB--RAOSgw3x.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="181.13744075829382"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>08:46 蔡茨非洲当代艺术博物馆（Zeitz MOCAA）（</span><span>开普敦</span><span>）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="6" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/22ea-audiofreehighqps/31/0C/GAqh1QQLytrlAATk8QOSgxcE.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/22ea-audiofreehighqps/31/0C/GAqh1QQLytrlAATk8QOSgxcE.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/22ea-audiofreehighqps/31/0C/GAqh1QQLytrlAATk8QOSgxcE.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1125" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/22ea-audiofreehighqps/31/0C/GAqh1QQLytrlAATk8QOSgxcE.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="210"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="7" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/e2ce-audiofreehighqps/66/99/GAqh9sALytrtAAQ7jgOSgx31.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/e2ce-audiofreehighqps/66/99/GAqh9sALytrtAAQ7jgOSgx31.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/e2ce-audiofreehighqps/66/99/GAqh9sALytrtAAQ7jgOSgx31.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1093.75" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/e2ce-audiofreehighqps/66/99/GAqh9sALytrtAAQ7jgOSgx31.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="204.16666666666666"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>09:33 天安千树（上海）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="8" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/be59-audiofreehighqps/77/7A/GAqhfD0Lytr0AAYnIAOSgySr.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/be59-audiofreehighqps/77/7A/GAqhfD0Lytr0AAYnIAOSgySr.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/be59-audiofreehighqps/77/7A/GAqhfD0Lytr0AAYnIAOSgySr.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1001.5625" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/be59-audiofreehighqps/77/7A/GAqhfD0Lytr0AAYnIAOSgySr.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.95833333333334"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>12:34 麻布台之丘（东京）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="9" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/efe0-audiofreehighqps/84/E3/GAqhfD0Lytr7AAlr8QOSgyp3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/efe0-audiofreehighqps/84/E3/GAqhfD0Lytr7AAlr8QOSgyp3.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/efe0-audiofreehighqps/84/E3/GAqhfD0Lytr7AAlr8QOSgyp3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="421.764705882353" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/efe0-audiofreehighqps/84/E3/GAqhfD0Lytr7AAlr8QOSgyp3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="78.72941176470589"><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>26:47 复星艺术中心（上海）</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="10" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/13dc-audiofreehighqps/02/F0/GKwRIW4LytsFAAdkewOSgzNY.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/13dc-audiofreehighqps/02/F0/GKwRIW4LytsFAAdkewOSgzNY.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/13dc-audiofreehighqps/02/F0/GKwRIW4LytsFAAdkewOSgzNY.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="499.8529411764706" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/13dc-audiofreehighqps/02/F0/GKwRIW4LytsFAAdkewOSgzNY.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.30588235294118"><br></span></p><p 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