
Conversational Counseling
Hosted by Alex Kocher and Brenda Payne · Known Ministries
4.9from 87 ratings
- 106
- Episodes
- 18
- Transcribed
- 87
- Ratings
- Weekly
- Cadence
- 2022
- First episode
- 22K
- YouTube views
About Conversational Counseling
Conversational Counseling is where discipleship and counseling meet. Each season we help you apply biblical truths to your everyday life and to the lives of those around you. After decades of having these conversations in the counseling room and side by side over coffee with friends, we really believe that every single thing we’ve learned is useful within family, with your friends, at your work, with your neighbors and at your church. For free visuals and discussion questions for this podcast, sign up at knownministries.org. Known Ministries is Alex Kocher and Brenda Payne.
- Publisher
- Known Ministries
- Category
- education
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 11 Apr 2022
- Latest episode
- 27 Oct 2026
Latest episodes
18 of 106 episodes have a transcript.

27 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
S14 Ep. 4 / "Submitting" to Abuse?: What the Church Needs to Hear with Darby Strickland

20 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
S14 Ep. 3 / Is My Church Actually Safe? with Chris Moles

13 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
S14 Ep. 2 / Finding Peace When Your Child Doesn’t Change with Dawn Ward
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S14 Ep. 4 / "Submitting" to Abuse?: What the Church Needs to Hear with Darby Strickland
Published 27 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] I think often the church makes its greatest mistakes in discovery. When I work with pastors who call and have a bunch of details and they're not able to make sense of it, as soon as we start to slow it down and look at some of those entitlements, talked about earlier these behaviors aren't random you're like what are they actually affording somebody right um once they start to put those things together any pastors they they almost the tears come i'm so sorry i missed this so it's usually in the discovery and the willingness to see a patterned behavior after that right then you might have different barriers of you know we're a marriage church or we're afraid to go the route of separation because, of course, that's always going to lead to divorce. […]
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- Darby Strickland
- Chris Moles
- Dawn Ward
- Leslie Vernick
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- YouTube views
- 21,599
- Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025
- Apple Podcasts (US)
- 4.9 / 5
- 61 ratings
- Spotify
- 5.0 / 5
- 26 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 69 / 100
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- Quality
- 76
- Social presence
- 0
- YouTube
- 76
- Engagement
- 77
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Who hosts Conversational Counseling?
Alex Kocher and Brenda Payne host the show. Published by Known Ministries.
How often do new episodes come out?
The show publishes weekly, based on its RSS feed.
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