
Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
Hosted by Allen and Thom and Patrick and Thom Rutledge and Joe C · Allen Berger & Thom Rutledge
4.3from 63 ratings
- 241
- Episodes
- 24
- Transcribed
- 63
- Ratings
- Daily
- Cadence
- 2021
- First episode
- 155K
- YouTube views
About Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
Bill Wilson, co-founder of Alcoholic's Anonymous, wrote in 1952, "If we examine every disturbance we have, great or small, we will find at the root some unhealthy dependence and its consequent demand." Wilson suggested that if we could identify and continually surrender these unrealistic and unrecognizable demands, that we may then be able to accomplish what he imagined to be recovery's next frontier - something he called emotional sobriety. Flash forward 70 years, and join psychotherapists and best-selling authors Thom Rutledge and Dr. Allen Berger, who have taken up the mantle of exploring Bill Wilson's new frontier. Welcome to Emotional Sobriety.
- Publisher
- Allen Berger & Thom Rutledge
- Category
- education · health & fitness
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 10 May 2021
- Latest episode
- 8 Oct 2026
Latest episodes
24 of 241 episodes have a transcript.

8 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
Don’t Let Anyone Edit Your Reality

29 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT
Responsibility Over Blame

10 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT
“Waking Up Is a Process” with Daniel Fulop-Furlano
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Don’t Let Anyone Edit Your Reality
Published 8 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] We're just saying it's a possibility. Yes. Yes. You don't have. There's a way of getting to a place in your life where you don't need to let other people edit your reality. Let's say you give a great talk. Let's see you do a great video. You do an editing that you feel good about. And in a person, somebody doesn't like it. Well, if you're dependent on people's approval, you're going to feel bad about it. If you're okay with yourself, you're going to say, hey, it's not about everybody liking it. I just may need to make sure whoever authored the work or ordered the work is pleased with it. That's good enough for me. […]
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- Daniel Fulop-Furlano
- Carol Carter
- Joe Chisholm
- Elizabeth Medrano
- Samantha Duggan
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- YouTube views
- 154,522
- Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025
- Apple Podcasts (US)
- 4.3 / 5
- 63 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 84 / 100
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- 97
- Social presence
- 0
- YouTube
- 86
- Engagement
- 90
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Who hosts Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery?
Allen and Thom and Patrick and Thom Rutledge and Joe C host the show. Published by Allen Berger & Thom Rutledge.
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