
Lead Counsel
Hosted by Tom Tona and Thomas Tona · Thomas Tona
5.0from 40 ratings
- 174
- Episodes
- 122
- Transcribed
- 40
- Ratings
- Daily
- Cadence
- 2023
- First episode
About Lead Counsel
What happens when law, business & life collide? What if you could hang out with law firm owners and accomplished business leaders earning seven, eight, and nine figures a year, and gain insights that propel legal cases, and businesses forward exponentially? The Lead Counsel podcast, hosted by Thomas Tona, is a weekly show that delves into the world of law, the business of law, life, and where the three intersect. Each episode will feature in-depth conversations with industry insiders and experts, thought leaders, and individuals that are making significant contributions and differences in their chosen fields. The show covers a wide range of topics related to law, the business of law, life and how they are intertwined. From the latest trends and research to personal stories and practical takeaways, the Lead Counsel podcast offers listeners deep dives on every topic discussed. The goal of this podcast is to provide zero cost to consumer information about law and the business of law, and related tools, to the general public. The show will include different segments, such as "Case of the Week," where the host gives his perspective on recent happenings in the industry, "Tools of the Trade," where the host and guests share valuable resources and tips for listeners, "Behind the Scenes" where the host and guests will share insights and stories not generally known in the industry, and "The Law Leader," where the host and guests will explore what it takes to build a 7,8 or 9-figure law firm and have a great life at the same time. Whether you're a lawyer, or non-lawyer, the Lead Counsel podcast is a must-listen for anyone looking to stay informed and inspired. The show is sure to be a valuable resource for anyone looking to learn more about your personal injury, no-fault collection, or other claims or lawsuits, as well as law firm business owners looking to perform at the highest levels of leadership.
- Publisher
- Thomas Tona
- Category
- business · education
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 20 Feb 2023
- Latest episode
- 8 Oct 2026
Latest episodes
122 of 174 episodes have a transcript.

8 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
173: Data Driven Law Firm Management: Stop Running Your Legal Business on Gut Feeling with Mike Zappone and Tom Tona

1 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
172: (Part 02) Right Person, Right Seat: Unpacking EOS Leadership with Mike Zappone

24 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT
171: Right Person, Right Seat: Unpacking EOS Leadership with Mike Zappone
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173: Data Driven Law Firm Management: Stop Running Your Legal Business on Gut Feeling with Mike Zappone and Tom Tona
Published 8 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] And that's a true story. And so, but I think it highlights the difference between measuring and feel, right? And I wrote down a bunch of things I've said over the years that I think highlight feel. Intake seems busy. Seems busy. You know, you would ask me how many intakes signed today on a daily basis. Now I have that data daily. The attorneys seem overloaded. Well, how many files are they handling? How much money have they put on the sheet? You know, how many people do they have under them that are lightening the load? And what are their numbers? Another thing that I used to say. We're getting plenty of leads and you would be like, okay, what's the quality of those leads? […]
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- Mike Zappone
- Brian Glass
- Jimmy Lai
- Jennifer Talley
- Jennifer Gore
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- Apple Podcasts (US)
- 5.0 / 5
- 31 ratings
- Spotify
- 5.0 / 5
- 9 ratings
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- 98
- Social presence
- 0
- YouTube
- 0
- Engagement
- 71
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Tom Tona and Thomas Tona host the show. Published by Thomas Tona.
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