In Love Doesn't Pay the Bills, we explore the role of family caregivers in the modern United States through personal stories and interviews with leaders. Care work is vital to all other aspects of life, yet often under-resourced. Caregivers cannot house and feed ourselves or provide for our own medical needs based on our love for our family members alone: access to income matters. We also have the same needs as other workers for regular time off, to participate in social life and recreation, and for ongoing education and new opportunities over time. email Lisa: lisatschudi@twosquaredmediaproductions.com<br /><br />Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/love-doesn-t-pay-the-bills-highlighting-the-value-of-family-caregiving--5692861/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/love-doesn-t-pay-the-bills-highlighting-the-value-of-family-caregiving--5692861/support</a>.

Love Doesn't Pay The Bills
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In Love Doesn't Pay the Bills, we explore the role of family caregivers in the modern United States through personal stories and interviews with leaders. Care work is vital to all other aspects of life, yet often under-resourced. Caregivers cannot house and feed ourselves or provide for our own medical needs based on our love for our family members alone: access to income matters. We also have the same needs as other workers for regular time off, to participate in social life and recreation, and for ongoing education and new opportunities over time. email Lisa: lisatschudi@twosquaredmediaproductions.com<br /><br />Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/love-doesn-t-pay-the-bills-highlighting-the-value-of-family-caregiving--5692861/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/love-doesn-t-pay-the-bills-highlighting-the-value-of-family-caregiving--5692861/support</a>.
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July 9, 2026
When ordinary childhood experiences require extraordinary care: With Guest Lenore Eklund
Lenore Eklund is the Illustrator of "Where is the manual for this!?" and mom to a medically complex child. We talk about the planning and work that goes into kids with disabilities having ordinary(and extraordinarily beautiful) childhood experiences. We talk about what happens when communities around the family take some of that planning off the primary caregiver's shoulders and when they don't. And why it's all worth it! <br /><br />Read <a href="https://substack.com/@lenoreeklund" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lenore's substack</a><br />Get Lenore's book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1737532506/ref=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cso_cp_apin_dp_VT0G798QTPJZ7SV7YRJM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Release: A NICU Fairytale</a><br />Follow <a href="https://www.medicalmotherhood.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Medical Motherhood</a>, also featuring "Where is the manual for this!?" with excellent reporting about raising and advocating for children with extraordinary care needs. <br /><br />Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/love-doesn-t-pay-the-bills-highlighting-the-value-of-family-caregiving--5692861/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/love-doesn-t-pay-the-bills-highlighting-the-value-of-family-caregiving--5692861/support</a>.<br /><br />Follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100089585776575" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a> or <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/lovedoesntpaypod.bsky.social" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bluesky</a>. <br />Subscribe to Lisa's newsletter on <a href="https://substack.com/@lisatschudi" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack</a>.

June 18, 2026
Link Arms to Improve Medicaid Home and Community Based Services
Direct Service Providers (DSPs) both paid family members, and nonfamily are critical to the wellbeing, autonomy and safety of people with disabilities. DSPs provide support with bathing, dressing, eating, transportation and more. Medicaid's home and community based services(HCBS) is specifically designed to ensure that people with high disability related care needs remain in their communities while being safe and thriving. Recent federal government actions, with the specified goal of eliminating fraud have raised questions about the entirety of HCBS and paying family caregivers. The three guests appearing today wrote an article about this entitled <a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/5883644-home-community-care-crisis/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">"The caregivers you've never heard of are in crisis"</a><br /><br />We discuss the importance and value of HCBS, the power of caregiver voices, why HCBS is too important to cut and actually saves a lot of money in addition to it's very real impact on quality of life for care recipients. We emphasize the mportance of all of us coming together to protect and in fact, expand, improve and enhance HCBS. We all agree that it's important to stop fraud, however it is also extremely important to provide necessary services for disabled people.<br /><br />Quoted in the episode is an <a href="https://www.kff.org/medicaid/5-key-facts-about-medicaid-program-integrity-fraud-waste-abuse-and-improper-payments/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">article published by KFF</a>, written by Elizabeth Hinton, Jessica Mathers, and Robin Rudowitz. They say “There are no reliable measures of fraud against Medicaid…Recent analysis of the FY 2023 HCFAC report found no beneficiary fraud in the listing. Providers convicted (of different kinds of fraud against Medicaid and Medicare) included ambulance service providers, durable medical equipment suppliers, diagnostic labs, nursing homes, pain clinics, pharmacies, physical therapists, physicians, and substance use treatment providers… Medicaid Paid an Estimated 94.9% of Total Outlays Properly, and Improper Payments are Mostly Due to Insufficient Information...What is known about fraud in Medicaid is that it’s not unique to Medicaid (fraud also occurs in Medicare and private health insurance) and is mostly committed by providers. There are checks on fraud, waste, and abuse at both the federal and the state levels“<br /><br />Also mentioned are examples of family member advocacy that are really impactful. One is the <a href="https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/mediaplayer/?clientID=4879615486&eventID=2025021004&fbclid=IwY2xjawIQZTZleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHewBPylsUt_xWGTDDE1hlQfLJ25QPBwx1LgEDx4VmgGOWyx5T8il4POGEQ_aem_UqlwU4JnxXepBW8Aka14Gw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">families which advocated for Tensy's Law in Oregon</a>, starting at about 13 minutes in this video. And another example was at some <a href="https://ohiochannel.org/programs/ohio-house-medicaid-committee-6-3-2026" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">recent Medicaid legislative hearings</a> in Ohio. Have some tissues handy before you watch these! <br /><br /><i><a href="https://ucp.org/about-ucp/national-staff/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Diane Wilush</a> began her career in social work in 1977 at a state institution in Miami. She served as President and CEO of United Cerebral Palsy of Georgia and United Cerebral Palsy of South Carolina in the early 2000s. After retiring from her CEO roles in Georgia and South Carolina, Diane continues her work as the part-time Senior Director of Public Policy and Advocacy for UCP of Georgia. In addition, she stepped into the role of Interim President and CEO of UCP National in the fall of 2025, continuing her commitment to leadership and advocacy at the national level.</i><br /><br /><i><a href="https://www.ancor.org/people/barbara-merrill/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Barbara...

June 11, 2026
The Vital Importance of Paid Family Leave: With Guest Elizabeth Milligan Cordova
<i>Elizabeth Milligan Cordova is an educator, early childhood advocate, and parent. She currently works for TEACH Colorado, helping to expand and strengthen early childhood education pathways. Across all of her roles, she remains deeply committed to advancing equity in education at every level.A parent to two young children, ages four and one, Elizabeth spends much of her time playing Go Fish, watching ballet performances in her kitchen, and doing dishes and laundry. Her youngest baby, Madeline, was born prematurely at 33 weeks and has benefited from Colorado’s early intervention services. Elizabeth loves yoga, running, travel, and reading, and treasures living close to her parents, sister, and brother-in-law.</i><br /><br />Elizabeth wrote this opinion piece about paid leave: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2026/05/21/paid-leave-employees-pregnancy-childbirth/90163849007/<br /><br />She and her daughter feature in the documentary <a href="https://lifelinesthefilm.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lifelines</a><br /><br />On this episode of Love Doesn't Pay the Bills, Elizabeth shares in depth about her experience with her baby in the NICU, and the importance of Paid Leave for all employees. She expresses very clearly how much positive impact strong support including paid leave has during a difficult postpartum and caregiving experience.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/love-doesn-t-pay-the-bills-highlighting-the-value-of-family-caregiving--5692861/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/love-doesn-t-pay-the-bills-highlighting-the-value-of-family-caregiving--5692861/support</a>.<br /><br />Follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100089585776575" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a> or <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/lovedoesntpaypod.bsky.social" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bluesky</a>. <br />Subscribe to Lisa's newsletter on <a href="https://substack.com/@lisatschudi" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack</a>.
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