“Needed to Hear That” hosted by Chaz and Pondoff, brings real conversations about mental health into real life. Therapist Chaz Franke and Chris Pondoff talk anxiety, trauma, recovery, relationships, and the ongoing work of becoming healthier humans. No clinical jargon, no fake positivity… just honest dialogue, grounded insight, and conversations that meet people where they actually are. Part of the Pondoff Network.
Needed to Hear That!
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“Needed to Hear That” hosted by Chaz and Pondoff, brings real conversations about mental health into real life. Therapist Chaz Franke and Chris Pondoff talk anxiety, trauma, recovery, relationships, and the ongoing work of becoming healthier humans. No clinical jargon, no fake positivity… just honest dialogue, grounded insight, and conversations that meet people where they actually are. Part of the Pondoff Network.
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June 19, 2026
"Mr. Rogers Changed His Shoes Every Time"
<p>On this episode of <strong>Needed To Hear That</strong>, Chaz and Chris explore a question that sits at the heart of healing, recovery, faith, and human connection: <strong>What makes people feel safe enough to be vulnerable?</strong> </p><p>Fresh off a trip to Denver, Chaz reflects on visiting a recovery community that helped shape the vision for Underground and sparked a conversation about consistency, belonging, and why some spaces instantly feel welcoming while others never quite get there. Together, he and Chris unpack the ingredients that create trust—showing up, keeping your word, making room for people exactly as they are, and understanding that vulnerability isn't something that can be forced. </p><p>The discussion weaves through recovery meetings, church communities, therapy rooms, support groups, and personal relationships, examining how betrayal, trauma, and disappointment can make the world feel smaller—and why finding safe people can help expand it again. Along the way, they share stories about mentorship, teaching, community building, Mr. Rogers, hiking adventures, and the quiet power of simply being present. </p><p>More than anything, this episode is a reminder that most people aren't looking for perfection. They're looking for a place where they can stop performing, put down the mask, and know they'll still be welcomed when they do. </p>
June 12, 2026
"Maybe I Need An Empty Drawer"
<p>On this episode of <strong>Needed To Hear That</strong>, Chaz and Chris tackle a question that seems simple on the surface but gets more complicated the longer you sit with it: <strong>How do you know when you're doing too much?</strong> </p><p>The conversation explores the tension between ambition and burnout, service and self-neglect, and why so many people feel simultaneously overwhelmed and convinced they aren't doing enough. Drawing from personal experiences in recovery, business ownership, ministry, parenting, and mental health work, they unpack the pressure to constantly produce, stay busy, and keep adding new responsibilities—even when the fire is already burning hot. </p><p>Along the way, they discuss hustle culture, guilt, people-pleasing, boundaries, disappointment, and the uncomfortable reality that taking care of yourself sometimes means letting someone else down. Chaz shares stories from therapy and Buddhist teachings, while Chris reflects on recovery, work, family life, and the challenge of learning that rest doesn't have to be earned. </p><p>This episode is ultimately an invitation to slow down, take inventory, and ask yourself a difficult question: Are you filling your life because it's meaningful, or because you're afraid of what you'll find in the empty space? </p>
June 5, 2026
"The Power of Someone Believing In You"
<p>On this episode of Needed To Hear That, Chaz and Chris are joined by therapist, educator, and Learn to Live founder Matt Bauersachs for a conversation about mentorship, purpose, therapy, recovery, and the people who shape who we become. The conversation starts as a discussion about social work school and professional development and quickly turns into a deeper exploration of what it means to truly help others—and why the best mentors often see something in us before we're able to see it ourselves.Matt shares stories from his journey through graduate school, working in adolescent treatment, launching Learn to Live, and helping young people navigate trauma, addiction, abandonment, and emotional dysregulation. The conversation explores how healing happens through relationships, why boundaries matter, and how consistency can change the trajectory of someone's life. Along the way, the three discuss foster care, mentorship, therapy, burnout, education, and the difficult balance between caring deeply and protecting your own well-being.The episode also dives into the power of encouragement, the impact a single teacher or mentor can have, and why some of the most important words we ever hear are simply, "You're going to be okay." Thoughtful, funny, and full of practical wisdom, this conversation is a reminder that growth rarely happens alone—and that the right people can change your life in ways they may never fully understand.</p>
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