Dive into the fire with Kris, Garrett and John — three owners of Fireside.fm who know what it’s like to stand in the flames of entrepreneurship. In 'Standing in the Fire,' we tackle everything from the latest trends in podcasting to the realities of running a SaaS business. No scripts, no filters — just real talk about what it takes to keep the fire burning. Join us as we explore the triumphs, struggles, and surprising lessons learned along the way.

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Dive into the fire with Kris, Garrett and John — three owners of Fireside.fm who know what it’s like to stand in the flames of entrepreneurship. In 'Standing in the Fire,' we tackle everything from the latest trends in podcasting to the realities of running a SaaS business. No scripts, no filters — just real talk about what it takes to keep the fire burning. Join us as we explore the triumphs, struggles, and surprising lessons learned along the way.
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Recent Episodes

August 3, 2026
14: Stop Fixing Every Bug (And Let Claude Handle the Rest)
<p>John (<a href="https://x.com/jnunemaker" rel="nofollow noopener">https://x.com/jnunemaker</a> ) and Kris (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/kristopherpriemer" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.instagram.com/kristopherpriemer</a>) talk about the real side of running multiple businesses: open loops, hiring pains, patience, and what actually keeps founders going.</p> <p>Show Notes:<br> (00:00) Intro & Catching Up<br> (01:39) Into the Fire: Idea Week Debrief<br> (02:58) Coworking Pivot: Why Private Offices Win<br> (06:42) New Category Thinking (Grüns Gummies)<br> (08:12) How to Fund the Build-Out<br> (08:52) Into the Fire: Health, Friendship & Hell Yeah or No<br> (11:06) Who You're Around Changes Everything<br> (12:23) Fan the Flames: Graham Weaver's Asymmetric Life<br> (14:07) Personality Isn't Permanent & Leadership Presence<br> (16:23) Cornelius Vanderbilt & the Art of No Grudges<br> (22:21) GStack: Gary Tan's AI Dev Workflow<br> (24:36) Using Claude to Fix WordPress Bugs<br> (26:33) YouTube Rabbit Holes & What John's Feed Looks Like<br> (28:29) Embers: Fireside, Flare & Flipper Updates<br> (33:05) Building an AI Watchdog That Redeploys at 3am<br> (38:23) Daily GitHub Summaries for $20/month</p> <p>Check Out John's Stuff:</p> <ul> <li> Fireside.fm – Podcast hosting for serious podcasters: <a href="https://fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://fireside.fm</a></li> <li> Flipper – Feature flag management: <a href="https://www.flippercloud.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.flippercloud.io</a></li> </ul> <p>Check Out Kris's Stuff:</p> <ul> <li> Momentum – Coworking space in South Bend: <a href="https://momentumsb.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://momentumsb.com</a></li> <li> The Hardest Thing Podcast – <a href="https://hardestthingpod.fireside.fm" rel="nofollow noopener">https://hardestthingpod.fireside.fm</a></li> </ul>

June 24, 2026
Bonus Episode: Open Loops, Hiring Pains, and Not Quitting
<p>A lost episode, finally found and worth the wait. John and Kris get into the real conversations founders rarely have out loud.</p> <p><strong>Topics covered:</strong></p> <ul> <li>Recording in person vs. remote - why it changes everything from the conversation to the edit</li> <li>Zoom fatigue and the surprising reason video calls wear you out</li> <li>The compounding effect: Atomic Habits applied to building a podcast (and a business)</li> <li>Hiring contractors vs. in-person employees - the messier, harder reality</li> <li>Patience as a founder - why wanting things to move faster creates its own kind of damage</li> <li>Open loops, stress, and why celebrating closed wins matters more than we admit</li> <li>The cost of being a yes-person when your time is your most valuable asset</li> <li>What's fueling the fire: books, podcasts, community events, and people showing up</li> </ul> <p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p> <ul> <li>Atomic Habits – James Clear</li> <li>Ready, Fire, Aim – Michael Masterson</li> <li>$100M Leads – Alex Hormozi</li> <li>My First Million Podcast</li> <li>Momentum (coworking space, South Bend)</li> </ul> <p>Like, follow, and leave a comment, it genuinely helps.</p>

June 10, 2026
13: Running on Empty: Burning Out, Finding Margin, and Growing on Purpose
<p>In this episode of Standing in the Fire, Kris and John pull back the curtain on what life actually looks like when you're managing multiple SaaS products, a coworking space, and a life that doesn't have a quiet corner right now.</p> <h3><strong>What We Cover</strong></h3> <p><strong>Into the Fire: What's Been Hard</strong><br> Kris opens up about a stretch where nothing feels like an oasis: hiring pressure, prepping for a big idea week at Momentum, and the small but real win of finally getting those emails out. John reflects on going deep into AI work with no buffer — and how a camping trip to Disney gave him the margin he didn't know he needed.</p> <p><strong>Fan the Flames: What's Been Inspiring</strong><br> John shares a conversation with a friend about Essentialism and a question that's been sitting with him: what does intentional growth actually look like? Growing a business past a certain point means doing things you don't enjoy — so what do you really want? Kris has been listening to Personality Isn't Permanent, a change of pace from the typical hustle-heavy business books.</p> <p><strong>Embers: Small Wins and Experiments</strong></p> <ul> <li>Fireside's episode upload flow is getting a real look: streamlined fields, drag-and-drop uploads, and AI-suggested metadata from transcripts are all on the roadmap</li> <li>Momentum is solving a surprisingly relatable problem: members don't want to leave when they're in the zone, with a dead-simple iPad + Square terminal snack shop</li> <li>Fireside cover art generation is in early exploration: episode art, built right into the platform</li> </ul> <p><strong>Podcast Rec of the Episode</strong><br> John's been listening to Physics of Startups on the road, specifically the "translation guide" episode on B2B sales and the push/pull framework. Highly recommended for anyone who's ever done a customer discovery call and walked away more confused than when they started.</p>
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