The Animal Behavior Management Alliance (ABMA) strives to spread knowledge throughout the animal care field to help enhance animal care through operant conditioning. Each episode we will discuss a topic in the world of animal care and break down the science of behavior change. To achieve this, the podcast’s host, Shane Gorbett, will interview fellow animal care professionals and experts from across the world to discuss all things training, behavior, enrichment, welfare, and much more! This podcast will be a great resource for all trainers. Let's talk some training and banter about behavior!

Animal Behavior Conversations: The Podcast of The ABMA
Claim This Podcastby Shane Gorbett, Board of Directors, The Animal Behavior Management Alliance
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The Animal Behavior Management Alliance (ABMA) strives to spread knowledge throughout the animal care field to help enhance animal care through operant conditioning. Each episode we will discuss a topic in the world of animal care and break down the science of behavior change. To achieve this, the podcast’s host, Shane Gorbett, will interview fellow animal care professionals and experts from across the world to discuss all things training, behavior, enrichment, welfare, and much more! This podcast will be a great resource for all trainers. Let's talk some training and banter about behavior!
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Recent Episodes

July 10, 2026
79: Creating Dialogue when Training with Multiple Trainers with Amy Schilz, Cheyenne Mountain Zoo & International Center for the Care and Conservation of Giraffes
<p><strong>This episode Amy Schilz, Cheyenne Mountain Zoo & International Center for the Care and Conservation of Giraffes, provides some great learning and advice for creating a three way dialogue when training with multiple trainers. This podcast is a companion to Amy’s presentation at the 2026 ABMA-IAATE annual conference titled “Three Way Communication: Creating Clear Contingencies for Learners Working with Multiple Trainers”. Amy starts the episode by discussing the three way dialogue when training with multiple trainers and how each party is providing cues. The discussion continues with information on how to give control to the animal to start, stop, and continue and the adjustments that we can, and should be making, after an animal says “no”. Finally, Amy explains advice for keeping criterion consistent and effectively planning and discussing all of the various considerations when training with multiple trainers. Stay tuned in for Amy’s "Training Tale" about the success of one of the newer trainers at Cheyenne Mountain Zoo.! For questions or suggestions about the podcast email </strong><strong>abc@theabma.org</strong><strong> and to reach Amy email </strong><a href="mailto:giraffe@cmzoo.org"><strong>giraffe@cmzoo.org</strong></a><strong>. </strong></p><p><strong>For more information on the International Center for the Care and Conservation of Giraffes visit: </strong><a href="https://giraffecenter.cmzoo.org/"><strong>https://giraffecenter.cmzoo.org/</strong></a></p><p><strong>3:00 Introduction to Amy Schilz</strong></p><p><strong>8:00 International Center for the Care and Conservation of Giraffes </strong></p><p><strong>14:50 Three Way Communication when training with multiple trainers </strong></p><p><strong>18:40 Advice for starting to train with multiple trainers </strong></p><p><strong>21:00 How are each party providing cues </strong></p><p><strong>30:00 Adjusting what we are doing after an animal says “no” </strong></p><p><strong>33:25 Advice for effectively navigating between schedules of reinforcement in a session </strong></p><p><strong>37:00 How to keep criterion consistent </strong></p><p><strong>44:10 How to give control to the animal and discuss amongst all trainers </strong></p><p><strong>51:35 Advice for making a plan with all of the considerations </strong></p><p><strong>53:45 “Training Tales” </strong></p><p><br></p>

June 26, 2026
78: Training Social Animals in a Group with One Trainer with SK Ivkovich, Dolphin Research Center
<p><strong>This episode SK Ivkovich, Dolphin Research Center, provides some great learning and advice for training social animals in a group with one trainer. This podcast is a companion to SK’s presentation at the 2026 ABMA-IAATE annual conference titled “Three’s a Crowd? Benefits of Training Social Animals in a Multi-Animal Group with One Trainer”. SK starts the discussion by advocating for the many benefits, to both animals and humans, of training social animals in a group. SK also focuses on the importance of focusing on the individual in the group and the role of the social hierarchy. The episode finishes on some advice for how to get started training social animals in a group. Stay tuned in for SK’s "Training Tale" about DRC’s new harbor seals! For questions or suggestions about the podcast email </strong><a href="mailto:abc@theabma.org" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>abc@theabma.org</strong></a><strong> and to reach SK email </strong><a href="mailto:sarah.ivkovich@dolphins.org" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>sarah.ivkovich@dolphins.org</strong></a><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>To learn more about the Dolphin Research Center’s Professional Animal Trainer Program visit </strong><a href="https://dolphins.org/drcti_professional_trainer_certificate_program" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://dolphins.org/drcti_professional_trainer_certificate_program</strong></a><strong> and to learn more about the Dolphin Academy Program visit </strong><a href="https://dolphins.org/drcti_professional_trainer_certificate_program" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://dolphins.org/drcti_professional_trainer_certificate_program</strong></a></p><ul><li><p><strong>3:15 Introduction to SK Ivkovich </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>4:50 Information on Dolphin Research Center’s Professional Animal Trainer Program and Dolphin Academy Program </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>10:15 The benefits of training social animals in a group </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>18:00 The benefits to the trainers </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>22:10 How to focus on each individual while training in a group </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>25:50 The role of social hierarchy </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>39:50 Advice for starting a session with multiple animals </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>48:55 Bridging animals in a group </strong></p></li><li><p><strong>57:00 “Training Tale” </strong></p></li></ul>

April 23, 2026
77: Recap of the 2026 ABMA-IAATE Joint Annual Conference in Cincinnati, Ohio, United States with Tzu Ying Lee, Tom Morath, & Brett Williams
<p><strong>This episode, through daily live recordings, features a recap of the 2026 ABMA-IAATE Annual Joint Conference (March 30-April 2, 2026) hosted by Cincinnati Zoo in Ohio, United States. Each day of the conference, one of the presenters for the day discusses their presentation and other learning that impacted them. </strong></p><p><strong>Day 1: Brett Williams, North Carolina Zoo, United States</strong></p><p><strong>Day 2: Tzu Ying Lee, Mandai Wildlife Group, Singapore</strong></p><p><strong>Day 3: Tom Morath, Hawk Conservancy Trust & Nature’s A Hoot Podcast, United Kingdom</strong></p><p><strong>If you are an ABMA member be sure to log in to AnimalProfessional.com to watch most of the presentations from the 2026 conference. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email abc@theabma.org. </strong></p><p><strong>To purchase Podcast Merchandise visit the ABMA online store at: </strong><a href="https://www.sawdustandinkapparel.com/abma26"><strong>https://www.sawdustandinkapparel.com/abma26</strong></a></p><p><strong>Let's talk some training and banter about behavior!</strong></p><p><strong>8:40 Day One Recap: Brett Williams, North Carolina Zoo </strong></p><p><strong>24:50 Day Two Recap: Tzu Ying Lee, Mandai Wildlife Group </strong></p><p><strong>36:00 Day Three Recap: Tom Morath, Hawk Conservancy Trust & Nature’s a Hoot Podcast</strong></p><p><br></p>
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