Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.
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Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.
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Recent Episodes
July 16, 2026
Tylenol Reborn, Talc Setbacks, and Covidien's First Bellwether Trial
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li><p><strong>Tylenol MDL Reinstated:</strong> The Second Circuit overturned the district court's exclusion of plaintiff experts, ruling that judges should not resolve active scientific debates at the gatekeeping stage. This brings the Tylenol autism/ADHD MDL back to life, with predictions that it could become the largest mass tort in history.</p></li><li><p><strong>Redefining the Daubert Standard:</strong> By holding that reliable expert methodologies belong in front of a jury even if opinions conflict, the Second Circuit has shifted the risk-evaluation calculus across all MDLs—and signaled a potential reversal in the upcoming Zantac appeal.</p></li><li><p><strong>A Temporary Win for J&J in Talc:</strong> A Special Master’s report recommended excluding asbestos testing testimony from plaintiff expert Dr. Longo. While J&J is claiming victory, this is only a recommendation and far from a death knell for the 70,000 pending talc cases.</p></li><li><p><strong>Covidien Hernia Mesh Trial Begins:</strong> The first bellwether trial involving Covidien’s Symbatex mesh has officially begun in the MDL. Covidien remains the last major standing manufacturer, holding about <strong>25%</strong> of the market share.</p></li><li><p><strong>Roundup Settlement Moves Forward:</strong> Despite favorable Supreme Court preemption decisions, Bayer is actively pushing forward with its <strong>$7.25 billion</strong> Missouri class action settlement, with a final approval hearing set for August 19th.</p></li></ul>
July 14, 2026
Three Days from Bankruptcy to Back-to-Back Nine-Figure Verdicts
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li><p><strong>Leading Through Extreme Crisis:</strong> Taking the helm as CEO right as courts closed required absolute transparency and raw video updates rather than polished corporate messaging to maintain team alignment.</p></li><li><p><strong>The Operational Math of Client Care:</strong> Setting staff caseloads by tracking the actual minutes required per individual task prevents burnout and guarantees a high-touch client experience.</p></li><li><p><strong>Maximizing Elite Trial Talent:</strong> Moving daily administrative burdens away from top earners allows elite trial lawyers to focus completely on high-value cases that generate massive revenue.</p></li><li><p><strong>Hospitality as a Competitive Advantage:</strong> Hiring staff with service backgrounds and keeping real people on the phones beats automated legal systems every time.</p></li><li><p><strong>Leveraging Initial Touchpoints:</strong> Complying with strict regulatory rules for in-person retainer reviews builds deep client trust right at the start of a case.</p></li><li><p><strong>Systematizing Personal Touch:</strong> Implementing organized internal programs for handwritten cards and small client gifts drives massive word-of-mouth referrals.</p></li></ul>
July 9, 2026
Navigating Defense Verdicts: What’s Next for NEC and Bard PowerPort?
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li><p><strong>NEC Trial Setbacks:</strong> A recent defense verdict in St. Louis adds to the challenges of NEC litigation, though plaintiff attorneys are looking toward the upcoming first MDL bellwether trial later this year to shift momentum.</p></li><li><p><strong>Bard PowerPort Shifts Strategy:</strong> The second Bard PowerPort bellwether trial focuses on infection injuries rather than fracture or migration, serving as a critical plaintiff’s pick that impacts hundreds of infection-only cases in the MDL.</p></li><li><p><strong>Social Media Litigation Isolates Meta:</strong> Google and TikTok have settled out of the upcoming California state court trial,, and predictions suggest Snapchat will follow, leaving Meta and Snapchat to stand alone against mounting pressure.</p></li><li><p><strong>Compounding Pressure on Tech Giants:</strong> Meta faces significant headwinds from public awareness campaigns and recent regulatory actions, such as the Supreme Court allowing Texas's age verification laws to move forward.</p></li><li><p><strong>Roundup Class Action Delayed:</strong> The final approval hearing for the Roundup class action in Missouri state court was pushed back to August for procedural briefing.</p></li></ul>
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