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Scalability School is your cheat code for building a more profitable DTC brand or agency. We break down tactical strategies, real-time wins, and tough lessons from three powerful perspectives: operator, agency, and community. It's not theory—it's what's actually working in the wild. Skip the fluff, steal what works, and scale with confidence.

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Episode thumbnail for Meta Is Reading Your Landing Page (Most Media Buyers Have No Idea)

July 16, 2026

Meta Is Reading Your Landing Page (Most Media Buyers Have No Idea)

<p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="8:1-8:258;89-346"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">Brad and Zach go deep on the single biggest scaling lever most media buyers are ignoring: the landing page. The spine of the episode is a mindset shift, meaning you can scale spend without new creative, new offers, or more discounting. You scale with pages.</span></p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="10:1-10:506;348-853"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">They open with creative-to-lander congruency: the ad makes a promise and the page has to keep it. Zach shares how MarsMen now runs 33 active landing pages organized by roughly 10 messaging pillars (aging, cortisol, energy, weight loss, GLP-1, TRT vs. natural), and the company has a hard rule that no ad launches without a congruent page behind it. The reason goes beyond conversion rate: Meta's Andromeda algorithm is reading the landing page itself. Page copy is a targeting signal, not just a destination.</span></p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="12:1-12:321;855-1175"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">Brad backs this with a case study: a client sending all traffic to a PDP ($41K in spend) duplicated the exact same creative to a "5 Reasons Why" page. Same spend level, substantially better ROAS, lower CPMR, and the age breakdown showed 45+ ripping harder than ever. Same ad, new audience, unlocked entirely by the page.</span></p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="14:1-14:739;1177-1915"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">From there they cover the format progression (listicle → advertorial → dynamic hybrid page → quiz), the specific page elements that matter (comparison charts, clear single CTA, social proof, FAQ, shoppable PDP sections injected below listicles), how to structure tests inside the ad account, kill criteria (48 hours at MarsMen's spend level, plus a "graveyard campaign" with cost controls to separate creative problems from page problems), what "winning" actually means (net new spend volume added to the account, not just beating the PDP head-to-head), and reporting (spend velocity as the success metric, heat maps, and session recordings, including one recording session that led to a single button change worth +20% revenue per session).</span></p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="16:1-16:589;1917-2505"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">The episode closes with the getting-started playbook: don't reinvent the template. Go pull the landers from the biggest spenders in Motion or any ad-tracking tool and copy the structure, because they all run nearly the same one. The real bottleneck is copywriting, which is much harder than people think (raw AI output without heavy pre-prompting gets you "shit copy with a bunch of em dashes"), and perfectionism: your landing pages can be uglier than your website, and your ads can be uglier than your landing pages. Use your brand font and colors, but if it's not perfect, get started.</span><br /> <br /></p> <h2 class="text-text-100 mt-3 -mb-1 text-[1.125rem] font-bold" data-sourcepos="41:1-41:53;3929-3981"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">Key Takeaways</span></h2> <ul class= "[li_&]:mb-0 [li_&]:mt-1 [li_&]:gap-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ul]:pb-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ol]:pb-1 list-disc flex flex-col gap-1 pl-8 mb-3" data-sourcepos="43:1-49:160;3983-5029"> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="43:1-43:137;3983-4119"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">Did you know Meta's Andromeda algorithm is reading your landing page copy, not just your ad, and using it to decide who sees your ads?</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="44:1-44:180;4120-4299"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">How one brand took the exact same ad, swaped the PDP for a "5 Reasons Why" page, and matched $41K in spend at a substantially better ROAS while unlocking an entirely new age demo.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="45:1-45:120;4300-4419"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">What if you could scale spend without a single new creative, new offer, or deeper discount, using only landing pages?</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="46:1-46:164;4420-4583"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">Why "my lander beat the PDP" is the wrong definition of a winning landing page test.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="47:1-47:131;4584-4714"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">What watching just 20 session recordings revealed that a single button change fixed.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="48:1-48:155;4715-4869"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">Why MarsMen refuses to launch any ad that doesn't have a congruent landing page behind it, and how they actively enforce it with 33 live landing pages.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="49:1-49:160;4870-5029"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">Why nearly ALL nine-figure brands run the same landing page template, and why this one thing (and not design) is the real reason your pages take forever to ship.</span></li> </ul> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">This episode of the Scalability School podcast is sponsored by NorthBeam and they just launched Northbeam Incrementality. Northbeam Incrementality gives you easy, automated, self-service incrementality tests, while protecting you from the major mistakes so many people make while running incrementality tests. Your MTA handles the daily tactics, your MMM guides the long-term planning, and Incrementality provides the causal truth. It's a closed loop that allows you to scale what works and cut what doesn't. Right now when you head over to <a href="https://www.northbeam.io/incrementality">www.northbeam.io/incrementality,</a> they're offering Scalability School listeners 50% off unlimited tests for a year when you join. Just tell them we sent you! </span></p> <p><br /> <span style="font-size: 14pt;"><strong>Chapters</strong></span></p> <ul class= "[li_&]:mb-0 [li_&]:mt-1 [li_&]:gap-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ul]:pb-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ol]:pb-1 list-disc flex flex-col gap-1 pl-8 mb-3" data-sourcepos="20:1-37:157;2521-3922"> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="20:1-20:16;2521-2536"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">00:00 – Intro</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="21:1-21:90;2537-2626"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">02:42 – Creative and lander congruency: the ad makes a promise, the page has to keep it</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="22:1-22:80;2627-2706"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">04:20 – Mars's 33 landing pages and the "no ad without a congruent page" rule</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="23:1-23:56;2707-2762"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">06:48 – Organizing pages by pillar and how wide to go</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="24:1-24:99;2763-2861"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">09:04 – Case study: same creative, $41K PDP vs. 5 Reasons Why page (and the 45+ audience unlock)</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="25:1-25:59;2862-2920"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">11:27 – "Andromeda is reading the page, not just the ad"</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="26:1-26:58;2921-2978"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">12:52 – What CPMR is and why it's debatable as a metric</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="27:1-27:92;2979-3070"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">13:54 – The landing page format progression: listicle → advertorial → dynamic page → quiz</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="28:1-28:67;3071-3137"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">16:51 – The elements that actually move the needle on a listicle</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="29:1-29:87;3138-3224"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">20:48 – Testing individual page elements and the spend velocity you need to validate</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="30:1-30:80;3225-3304"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">23:46 – How pages get launched into the ad account (3 net new funnels a week)</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="31:1-31:64;3305-3368"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">26:44 – What a "win" actually is: adding net new spend volume</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="32:1-32:61;3369-3429"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">29:01 – Kill criteria: 48 hours and the graveyard campaign</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="33:1-33:71;3430-3500"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">30:08 – Persona-specific PDPs and injecting the PDP below the lander</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="34:1-34:73;3501-3573"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">32:32 – The Dr. Gundry VSL rabbit hole and why VSLs demand insane AOVs</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="35:1-35:78;3574-3651"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">34:29 – Using one open-ended quiz question to generate new creative pillars</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="36:1-36:114;3652-3765"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">37:23 – Landing page reporting: spend velocity, heat maps, and the recording that added 20% revenue per session</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="37:1-37:157;3766-3922"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">41:09 – How to get started: copy the top spenders' templates, copywriting is the real bottleneck, and "your landing pages can be uglier than your website"</span></li> </ul> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">To connect with Andrew Foxwell send an email <a href= "mailto:Andrew@foxwelldigital.com">Andrew@foxwelldigital.com</a></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">To connect with Brad Ploch send him a DM at <a href= "https://x.com/brad_ploch">https://x.com/brad_ploch</a></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">To connect with Zach Stuck send him a DM at <a href= "https://x.com/zachmstuck">https://x.com/zachmstuck</a></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Learn more about the Foxwell Founders Community at <a href= "https://foxwellfounders.com">https://foxwellfounders.com</a></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Learn more about the The Hive Haus Creators Community at <a href= "http://HiveHausUGC.com">http://HiveHausUGC.com</a> </span></p> <p> </p> <p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Made With AI</span></p>

Episode thumbnail for We Tested Meta's Incremental Attribution on $200K/Month: Here's Why We Turned It Off.

July 2, 2026

We Tested Meta's Incremental Attribution on $200K/Month: Here's Why We Turned It Off.

<p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="5:1-5:212;73-284">This episode is a tactical deep dive into two of the biggest measurement questions in DTC right now, capped off with Zach Stuck joining to break down how MarsMen sets ad budgets off forecasted recurring revenue.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="7:1-7:1054;286-1339">The first half is a real client case study on Meta's Incremental Attribution (IA). Brad walks us through an apparel brand, with an AOV just over $100, strong organic and influencer traffic, and $150-200K per month in spend. A conversion lift study at the start of the year showed their one-day click ROAS almost perfectly matched their true incremental number, so 1DC became the account's benchmark. When they tested IA head-to-head against one-day click (each with its own holdout), IA looked terrible in week one, then dramatically better in weeks two and three, and the lift study combined with Triple Whale MTA data validated the win.<br /> <br /> Then Meta changed its click attribution definition in March (only outbound clicks now count as clicks, with profile clicks and comments moved to "engaged"), and IA performance deviated hard from one-day click, Triple Whale, and product-level MER. IA also stopped responding to bid adjustments.<br /> <br /> The takeaway: they reverted to one-day click, with a plan to retest IA in three to six months as Meta feeds the model more conversion lift data.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="9:1-9:672;1341-2012">The second segment covers creative cohort spend analysis: breaking down each month's spend by the month the ads were launched. If most of May's spend is running through ads launched last year, your new creative isn't earning spend and something is broken in the pipeline. If nearly all spend is from ads launched in the last 30 days, you are over-reliant on a few recent outliers. Splitting the view by evergreen versus promo ads shows whether new creative is compounding month over month, which is what actually earns the right to scale spend. Zach adds Homestead's layer on top: tracking "breakthrough" ads ($2K spend in 7 days at target) versus scaled ads every month.</p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="11:1-11:676;2014-2689">The final segment is Zach on how MarsMen scales: if you can forecast next month's recurring revenue, you can spend into that full amount, as long as your blended MER covers OPEX and your new-customer ROAS holds at target. He walks through the cash-flow traps (90-day subscriptions deferring revenue, promos shifting cohort behavior), MarsMen's rebuilt forecast model that applies retention curves at the individual customer level, daily new-customer targets by channel, and a reactivation play: offering discounted one-time purchases to list subscribers who never converted because they didn't want a subscription, which he estimates is worth hundreds of thousands per month.<br /> <br /></p> <h2 class="text-text-100 mt-3 -mb-1 text-[1.125rem] font-bold" data-sourcepos="25:1-25:44;3326-3369">Key Takeaways</h2> <ul class= "[li_&]:mb-0 [li_&]:mt-1 [li_&]:gap-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ul]:pb-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ol]:pb-1 list-disc flex flex-col gap-1 pl-8 mb-3" data-sourcepos="27:1-36:100;3371-4507"> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="27:1-27:105;3371-3475">Why Meta's Incremental Attribution passed a conversion lift test, only to then fall apart three weeks later.</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="28:1-28:109;3476-3584">How you can REALLY spend 100% of next month's forecasted MRR on ads this month, and when that math breaks.</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="29:1-29:115;3585-3699">The one thing that might be the real reason as to to why your account performance suddenly shifted after March 2026.</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="30:1-30:141;3700-3840">The percentage of this month's ad spend that should come from ads you launched this month, and what it means if the answer is almost none.</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="31:1-31:127;3841-3967">Is your "dead" email list quietly hiding hundreds of thousands in monthly revenue? </li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="32:1-32:142;3968-4109">Why one-day click beats seven-day click for brands with heavy organic traffic, and how to know which one your account should trust.</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="33:1-33:96;4110-4205">What a "breakthrough ad" actually is and why your creative team should be measured on them every month.</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="34:1-34:88;4206-4293">Caution: How adding a 90-day subscription offer can put your cash flow at risk 60 days later.</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="35:1-35:114;4294-4407">Should subscription brands hold email, SMS, and organic to daily new-customer quotas the same way they do paid?</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="36:1-36:100;4408-4507">Is the creative volume game dead, or are the people abandoning it just measuring hit rates wrong?</li> </ul> <h3 class="text-text-100 mt-2 -mb-1 text-base font-bold" data-sourcepos="13:1-13:13;2691-2703">Chapters</h3> <ul class= "[li_&]:mb-0 [li_&]:mt-1 [li_&]:gap-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ul]:pb-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ol]:pb-1 list-disc flex flex-col gap-1 pl-8 mb-3" data-sourcepos="15:1-21:83;2705-3319"> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="15:1-15:74;2705-2778">02:32 — Should you test Meta's Incremental Attribution in your account?</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="16:1-16:86;2779-2864">07:30 — How do you design a fair test of one-day click vs. Incremental Attribution?</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="17:1-17:97;2865-2961">11:32 — What did Meta's new click attribution definition change, and why did it break results?</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="18:1-18:89;2962-3050">14:02 — When should you turn Incremental Attribution off and go back to one-day click?</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="19:1-19:94;3051-3144">26:30 — How do you run a creative cohort analysis to see if your new ads are earning spend?</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="20:1-20:92;3145-3236">35:31 — How does a subscription brand use next month's MRR to set this month's ad budget?</li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" data-sourcepos="21:1-21:83;3237-3319">46:02 — How do you turn a "dead" email list into six figures of monthly revenue?</li> </ul> <div id="expanded" class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"> <span class= "ytAttributedStringHost ytAttributedStringWhiteSpacePreWrap" dir= "auto"><span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir= "auto">This episode of the Scalability School podcast is sponsored by NorthBeam and they just launched Northbeam Incrementality. Northbeam Incrementality gives you easy, automated, self-service incrementality tests, while protecting you from the major mistakes so many people make while running incrementality tests. Your MTA handles the daily tactics, your MMM guides the long-term planning, and Incrementality provides the causal truth. It's a closed loop that allows you to scale what works and cut what doesn't. Right now when you head over to www.northbeam.io/incrementality, they're offering Scalability School listeners 50% off unlimited tests for a year when you join. Just tell them we sent you! <br /></span> <span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto"><br /> To connect with Andrew Foxwell send an email <a href= "mailto:Andrew@foxwelldigital.com">Andrew@foxwelldigital.com</a></span></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringHost ytAttributedStringWhiteSpacePreWrap" dir= "auto"><span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir= "auto">To connect with Brad Ploch send him a DM at</span> <span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir= "auto"><a href="https://x.com/brad_ploch">https://x.com/brad_ploch</a></span></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringHost ytAttributedStringWhiteSpacePreWrap" dir= "auto"><span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir= "auto">To connect with Zach Stuck send him a DM at </span><span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto"><a href= "https://x.com/zachmstuck">https://x.com/zachmstuck</a></span></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringHost ytAttributedStringWhiteSpacePreWrap" dir= "auto"><span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir= "auto">Learn more about the Foxwell Founders Community at </span><span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto"><a href= "https://foxwellfounders.com">https://foxwellfounders.com</a></span></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringHost ytAttributedStringWhiteSpacePreWrap" dir= "auto"><span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir= "auto">Learn more about the The Hive Haus Creators Community at</span> <span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir= "auto"><a class= "ytAttributedStringLink ytAttributedStringLinkCallToActionColor" tabindex="0" href= "https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbUxmMmdaaXQ2S0dJcC1GRkVLcURVcVJ0bUpwd3xBQ3Jtc0trM2RzU3J4dnc3bkN1NEhCNS1hVEMtWTljdGY3TzNFaFl2WU1OVjZ4VHBDNlkwMWMwRTBUWWtueFhweXRHd3E4MlE5QkpqTTZVSUlRNm00TldYMU1rUHlZQ1pKa3psLU9YNWRfUnZuUnFqODlMQjJJQQ&q=http%3A%2F%2FHiveHausUGC.com%2F&v=rbMchzmiI7w" target="_blank" rel= "nofollow noopener">http://HiveHausUGC.com</a></span></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"> </div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringHost ytAttributedStringWhiteSpacePreWrap" dir= "auto"><span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir= "auto">Made With AI</span></span></div> <div id="snippet" class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"> </div> <div class="style-scope ytd-watch-metadata"> <div id="video-summary" class= "style-scope ytd-structured-description-content-renderer"></div> <div id="merch-shelf" class= "style-scope ytd-structured-description-content-renderer"></div> <div id="ticket-shelf" class= "style-scope ytd-structured-description-content-renderer"></div> <div id="items" class= "style-scope ytd-structured-description-content-renderer"></div> </div>

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June 18, 2026

Stop Making More Ads — Fix THIS Instead

<p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="9:1-9:388;360-747"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">In the words of Andrew Foxwell, "It's just the guys" and they framed this episode around one big shift: 2025 was the year of creative diversity and raw ad volume, and 2026 is the year that questions, "what is all this volume actually pointing at?" Call it a return to intentionality, and the part of the funnel many brands have been ignoring while chasing creative volume: the landing page.</span></p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="11:1-11:658;749-1406"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">Brad opens by reacting to a Twitter conversation where operators sounded burnt out on the volume game, then reframes the discussion around what you can improve outside of ad creative. The crew works through <a href="https://x.com/chereneaubert" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Cherene's</a> "marketing tornado" idea: If the same person sees your brand 15+ different ways, and the job is consistency of message across all of them, then it's important to arm Meta with creative, landing pages, and offers so its AI (Andromeda) can deliver the right message to the right person at the right time.</span></p> <p class="font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" data-sourcepos="13:1-13:1084;1408-2491"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">The heart of the episode is landing page strategy. Zach speed-runs the page-type hierarchy, then both hosts hammer funnel congruency, the ad-to-lander-to-PDP message match they admit was a big driver of their Feb/March scaling. Brad shares a beauty-brand example where simply turning a winning founder video's transcript into a congruent listicle scaled spend 60% month-over-month (twice) with zero new ads. <br /> <br /> The short: stop hunting for the one winning page, run many congruent pages live at once, and let Meta allocate spend across them. </span></p> <h2 class="text-text-100 mt-3 -mb-1 text-[1.125rem] font-bold" data-sourcepos="17:1-17:60;2498-2557"><span style= "font-size: 14pt;">Key Takeaways</span></h2> <ul class= "[li_&]:mb-0 [li_&]:mt-1 [li_&]:gap-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ul]:pb-1 [&:not(:last-child)_ol]:pb-1 list-disc flex flex-col gap-1 pl-8 mb-3" data-sourcepos="19:1-35:137;2559-4876"> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="19:1-19:138;2559-2696"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">Why ad-to-landing-page-to-PDP "funnel congruency" is the piece most operators are still leaving on the table in 2026.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="20:1-20:150;2697-2846"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">How one brand scaled spend 60% month-over-month (twice) with zero new ads.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="21:1-21:141;2847-2987"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">Why you need to stop hunting for the single "winning" landing page and instead run many congruent pages live at once.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="22:1-22:135;2988-3122"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">What it actually means to "sell one product 50 different ways," and why your angle TAM is more important than your category TAM.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="23:1-23:148;3123-3270"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">Why the volume game is finally dead, and what the 2026 shift from "make more" to "what is this volume pointing at" means for your testing budget.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="24:1-24:124;3271-3394"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">Why a "marketing tornado," is your best bet to keep message consistency when one buyer sees your brand 15+ different ways.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="25:1-25:149;3395-3543"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">When it actually pays to set different CPA/ROAS targets by funnel stage and product.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="26:1-26:109;3544-3652"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">Why a congruent landing page will lower your CPM, CPMR and earn you a "back tap" from the Meta auction.</span></li> <li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2" style="font-size: 14pt;" data-sourcepos="27:1-27:136;3653-3788"> <span style="font-size: 14pt;">The order you should be building and testing your landing pages. <br /></span></li> </ul> <div id="expanded" class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"> <span class= "ytAttributedStringHost ytAttributedStringWhiteSpacePreWrap" dir= "auto" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span class= "ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto">This episode of the Scalability School podcast is sponsored by NorthBeam and they just launched Northbeam Incrementality. Northbeam Incrementality gives you easy, automated, self-service incrementality tests, while protecting you from the major mistakes so many people make while running incrementality tests. Your MTA handles the daily tactics, your MMM guides the long-term planning, and Incrementality provides the causal truth. It's a closed loop that allows you to scale what works and cut what doesn't. Right now when you head over to www.northbeam.io/incrementality, they're offering Scalability School listeners 50% off unlimited tests for a year when you join. Just tell them we sent you! </span></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"> </div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto" style= "font-size: 14pt; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;"> To connect with Andrew Foxwell send an email <a href= "mailto:Andrew@foxwelldigital.com">Andrew@foxwelldigital.com</a></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto" style= "font-size: 14pt; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;"> To connect with Brad Ploch send him a DM at</span> <span class= "ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto" style= "font-size: 14pt; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;"> <a href= "https://x.com/brad_ploch">https://x.com/brad_ploch</a></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto" style= "font-size: 14pt; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;"> To connect with Zach Stuck send him a DM at</span> <span class= "ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto" style= "font-size: 14pt; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;"> <a href= "https://x.com/zachmstuck">https://x.com/zachmstuck</a></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"> </div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto" style= "font-size: 14pt; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;"> Learn more about the Foxwell Founders Community at</span> <span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto" style= "font-size: 14pt; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;"> <a href= "https://foxwellfounders.com">https://foxwellfounders.com</a></span></div> <div class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"><span class= "ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto" style= "font-size: 14pt; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;"> Learn more about the The Hive Haus Creators Community at </span><span class="ytAttributedStringLinkInheritColor" dir="auto" style= "font-size: 14pt; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;"><a class="ytAttributedStringLink ytAttributedStringLinkCallToActionColor" tabindex="0" href= "https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0ZETGI2ZGRzdnhldHVOUXVtSm0wZlp6bV9Md3xBQ3Jtc0tuQ0YzOFcxRE43NjEwTG1ZM29jUnNlbXJvelBHT01Tc2p4OEJyZVF6WmFQZmVCeGgwOEdJNDFJV2pYSGxLdTFoeHE4QVAwMElKRHRNTlYta0JJTkdqSEZRcHd3bklTUjdzSnY0Vy1LbDByVjdhYURYSQ&q=http%3A%2F%2FHiveHausUGC.com%2F&v=6y-S-VB-13c" target="_blank" rel= "nofollow noopener">http://HiveHausUGC.com</a></span></div> <div id="snippet" class="style-scope ytd-text-inline-expander"> </div> <div class="style-scope ytd-watch-metadata"> <div id="video-summary" class= "style-scope ytd-structured-description-content-renderer"></div> <div id="merch-shelf" class= "style-scope ytd-structured-description-content-renderer"></div> <div id="ticket-shelf" class= "style-scope ytd-structured-description-content-renderer"></div> <div id="items" class= "style-scope ytd-structured-description-content-renderer"></div> </div>

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