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by Aníbal Henriques, Tisha Shull & Alexia Rothman

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IFS Talks is an audio series to deepen connections with the Internal Family Systems Model through conversations with lead trainers, authors, practitioners and users. In these audio interviews, we will have the opportunity to draw out aspects of IFS Lead Trainers and skilled presenters to create a user-friendly format for listeners to get to know each trainer or practitioner, their background, in and before IFS. With candid, self-led dialogue, trainers and practitioners can share their specific interests with listeners interested in deepening their inner knowledge and IFS practice. Cece Sykes, Susan McConnell, Mary Kruger, Pam Krause, Lisa Spiegel, Martha Sweezy, Art Mones, Ann Sinko, Paul Neustadt, Frank Anderson, Larry Rosenberg, Toni Herbine-Blank, and many more among the interviewees. Among the topics in theTalks: - All Erotic Parts are Welcome, with Larry Rosenberg - IFS, Trauma and Neuroscience, with Frank Anderson - From Reactive to Self Led Parenting, with Paul Neustadt - IFS as a Metamodel of Therapy, with Art Mones - The Role of Legacy Burdens on Anxiety, Depression and Shame, with Ann Sinko - Shame and Guilt as central for IFS work, with Martha Sweezy - Bringing IFS to Children and Parents, with Lisa Spiegel - IFS with Children and Adolescents, with Pam Krause - IFS on Addictions and Eating Disorders, with Mary Kruger - Embodying the Internal Family, with Susan McConnell - Bringing IFS to Extreme Parts, with Cece Sykes

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May 29, 2026

Uncertainty and Mental Health with Sarah Bergenfeld and Martha Sweezy

Certified Level 3 IFS practitioner Sarah Bergenfeld and Harvard Medical School assistant professor Martha Sweezy discuss how uncertainty fuels distress and shame, offering IFS as a path to resolution.

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April 27, 2026

Honoring and Accompanying Grief, with Einat Bronstein

<p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">In this episode, we explore the nature of grief through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) with senior trainer <u>Einat Bronstein</u>. Drawing on the work of <u>Francis Weller</u> and other key grief theorists, we reflect on grief not as a problem to solve, but as a deeply human experience that calls for presence, witnessing, and integration.</p><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;min-height:15.0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">We discuss how cultural expectations and “collective burdens” shape the way grief is experienced, often leading to blocked or frozen processes. From an IFS perspective, grief is understood as a complex, non-linear experience carried by different parts of the internal system, particularly exiles.</p><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;min-height:15.0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">The conversation explores topics like:</p><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;min-height:15.0px;">&nbsp;</p><ul style="list-style-type:disc;"><li style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">How IFS differs from stage-based and task-oriented models of grief - such as those of <u>Elisabeth Kübler-Ross</u>, <u>John Bowlby</u>, <u>J. William Worden</u>, and <u>Robert Neimeyer</u></li><li style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">What happens internally when we experience loss, and the roles of different parts in the grieving process</li><li style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">Why grief may feel stuck, and how Self-led witnessing can allow transformation and healing</li><li style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">The connection between present grief and earlier, unresolved losses</li><li style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">The role of psychoeducation, ritual, and embodied expression in supporting grief</li><li style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">What it means to “integrate” a loss within the IFS framework</li></ul><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;min-height:15.0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">We also reflect on common pitfalls therapists may encounter when working with grief, and the deeper wisdom that can emerge from loss, about love, attachment, and the enduring presence of those we have lost.</p><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;min-height:15.0px;">&nbsp;</p><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">This episode is an invitation to approach grief with curiosity, compassion, and openness, honoring it as a doorway to connection, meaning, and inner transformation.</p><p style="font:13.0px 'Helvetica Neue';margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;">&nbsp;</p><hr><p class="Paragraph SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;background-color:transparent;color:windowtext;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin:16px 0px;overflow-wrap:break-word;padding:0px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;vertical-align:baseline;" paraid="1740661929" paraeid="{20b75e19-8f00-41a4-ab56-956feeb8a511}{116}"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:11.5pt;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-position:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">We are excited to celebrate the launch of <strong>IFS Collected Wisdom: Conversations with Experienced Voices in Internal Family Systems</strong> a book that brings together voices, reflections, and lived experience from across the IFS community. This book was created from a desire to honor those voices, and to acknowledge that wisdom in IFS doesn’t live in one place or one person. It lives in relationship, in experience, and in the field as it evolves. </span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-position:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you for being a listener, for being part of this community,&nbsp; and for continuing to explore what becomes possible when Self leads. We hope that IFS Collected Wisdom can become a companion in your IFS journey.</span><span class="EOP SCXW53310572 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;color:rgb(53, 53, 53);font-family:Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;orphans:2;padding:0px;text-align:justify;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;" data-ccp-props="{&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559738&quot;:285,&quot;335559739&quot;:285}">&nbsp;</span><a href="https://www.sppc.org.pt/downloads/IFS_Collected_Wisdom_CONTENTS.pdf" target="_blank">Here is a link to the IFS Collected Wisdom book contents</a>.<span class="EOP SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-ccp-props="{&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240}">&nbsp;</span></p><p>&nbsp;</p>

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February 28, 2026

Bringing IFS to Children, Parenting, and Schools - with Lisa Spiegel and Claire Stubbs

<div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;caret-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.847);clear:both;color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.847);cursor:text;direction:ltr;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web&quot;, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin:0px;orphans:2;overflow:visible;padding:0px;position:relative;text-align:start;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><p class="Paragraph SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;background-color:transparent;color:windowtext;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin:16px 0px;overflow-wrap:break-word;padding:0px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;vertical-align:baseline;" paraid="865736190" paraeid="{20b75e19-8f00-41a4-ab56-956feeb8a511}{198}"><span class="TextRun SCXW97470806 BCX4 NormalTextRun" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-ligatures:none !important;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-contrast="auto" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">Today on IFS Talks, we’re excited to welcome Lisa Spiegel and Claire Stubbs. Lisa i</span><span class="TextRun SCXW97470806 BCX4 NormalTextRun" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-ligatures:none !important;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-contrast="auto" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">s the founder of Soho Parenting in New York City. She’s an author and a certified IFS therapist and consultant who has worked with children and families for over 40 years and teaches therapists around the world.&nbsp;</span><span class="EOP SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-ccp-props="{&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240}">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;caret-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.847);clear:both;color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.847);cursor:text;direction:ltr;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web&quot;, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin:0px;orphans:2;overflow:visible;padding:0px;position:relative;text-align:start;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><p class="Paragraph SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;background-color:transparent;color:windowtext;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin:16px 0px;overflow-wrap:break-word;padding:0px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;vertical-align:baseline;" paraid="1740661929" paraeid="{20b75e19-8f00-41a4-ab56-956feeb8a511}{116}"><span class="TextRun SCXW97470806 BCX4 NormalTextRun" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-ligatures:none !important;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-contrast="auto" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">Claire Stubbs </span><span class="TextRun SCXW97470806 BCX4 NormalTextRun" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-ligatures:none !important;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-contrast="auto" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">is a chartered counseling psychologist, author, and IFS therapist in the UK, specializing in neurodiversity, trauma, and emotionally based school avoidance. She is the author of </span><span class="TextRun SCXW97470806 BCX4 NormalTextRun" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-ligatures:none !important;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-contrast="auto" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">Emotionally Ba</span><span class="TextRun SCXW97470806 BCX4 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;background-image:var(--urlContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2,url(&quot;data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciIHdpZHRoPSI1IiBoZWlnaHQ9IjMiPjxnIGZpbGw9Im5vbmUiIGZpbGwtcnVsZT0iZXZlbm9kZCIgc3Ryb2tlPSIjMzVGIiBzdHJva2UtbGluZWNhcD0icm91bmQiPjxwYXRoIGQ9Ik0wIC41aDVNMCAyLjVoNSIvPjwvZz48L3N2Zz4=&quot;));background-position:0px 100%;background-repeat:repeat-x;border-bottom:1px solid transparent;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-ligatures:none !important;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-contrast="auto" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">sed Scho</span><span class="TextRun SCXW97470806 BCX4 NormalTextRun" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-ligatures:none !important;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-contrast="auto" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">ol Avoidance: A Compassionate and supportive companion for you and your child.</span><span class="TextRun SCXW97470806 BCX4 NormalTextRun" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-ligatures:none !important;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-contrast="auto" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"> Today, we will be speaking with them about using IFS withchildren and families. Welcome, Lisa and Claire!</span><span class="EOP SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-ccp-props="{&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240}">&nbsp;</span></p><hr><p class="Paragraph SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;background-color:transparent;color:windowtext;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin:16px 0px;overflow-wrap:break-word;padding:0px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;vertical-align:baseline;" paraid="1740661929" paraeid="{20b75e19-8f00-41a4-ab56-956feeb8a511}{116}"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:11.5pt;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-position:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">We are excited to celebrate the launch of <strong>IFS Collected Wisdom: Conversations with Experienced Voices in Internal Family Systems</strong> a book that brings together voices, reflections, and lived experience from across the IFS community. This book was created from a desire to honor those voices, and to acknowledge that wisdom in IFS doesn’t live in one place or one person. It lives in relationship, in experience, and in the field as it evolves. </span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-position:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Thank you for being a listener, for being part of this community,&nbsp; and for continuing to explore what becomes possible when Self leads. We hope that IFS Collected Wisdom can become a companion in your IFS journey.</span><span class="EOP SCXW53310572 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;color:rgb(53, 53, 53);font-family:Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;orphans:2;padding:0px;text-align:justify;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-thickness:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;" data-ccp-props="{&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559738&quot;:285,&quot;335559739&quot;:285}">&nbsp;</span><a href="https://www.sppc.org.pt/downloads/IFS_Collected_Wisdom_CONTENTS.pdf" target="_blank">Here is a link to the IFS Collected Wisdom book contents</a>.<span class="EOP SCXW97470806 BCX4" style="-webkit-nbsp-mode:normal !important;-webkit-user-drag:none;-webkit-user-select:text;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_EmbeddedFont&quot;, &quot;Helvetica Neue_MSFontService&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;line-height:20.85px;margin:0px;padding:0px;" data-ccp-props="{&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240}">&nbsp;</span></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div>

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What is IFS Talks?

IFS Talks is an audio series to deepen connections with the Internal Family Systems Model through conversations with lead trainers, authors, practitioners and users. In these audio interviews, we will have the opportunity to draw out aspects of IFS Lead Trainers and skilled presenters to create a user-friendly format for listeners to get to know each trainer or practitioner, their background, in and before IFS. With candid, self-led dialogue, trainers and practitioners can share their specific interests with listeners interested in deepening their inner knowledge and IFS practice. Cece Sykes, Susan McConnell, Mary Kruger, Pam Krause, Lisa Spiegel, Martha Sweezy, Art Mones, Ann Sinko, Paul Neustadt, Frank Anderson, Larry Rosenberg, Toni Herbine-Blank, and many more among the interviewees. Among the topics in theTalks:

  • All Erotic Parts are Welcome, with Larry Rosenberg
  • IFS, Trauma and Neuroscience, with Frank Anderson
  • From Reactive to Self Led Parenting, with Paul Neustadt
  • IFS as a Metamodel of Therapy, with Art Mones
  • The Role of Legacy Burdens on Anxiety, Depression and Shame, with Ann Sinko
  • Shame and Guilt as central for IFS work, with Martha Sweezy
  • Bringing IFS to Children and Parents, with Lisa Spiegel
  • IFS with Children and Adolescents, with Pam Krause
  • IFS on Addictions and Eating Disorders, with Mary Kruger
  • Embodying the Internal Family, with Susan McConnell
  • Bringing IFS to Extreme Parts, with Cece Sykes
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This podcast updates weekly.

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